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  • adian1
    started a topic sumerians are black

    sumerians are black

    sumerian is the language of proto tamils they come from egypt
    sumerians are black , they trust in An the god of the sky .

    Lexical Correspondences between Sumerian and Dravidian

    DrK.Loganathan, Universiti Sains Malaysia

    (Part of the paper originally published in the Journal of of the Inst. of Asian Studies, Chennai March 1989)

    Introduction

    The last few decades have seen some important advances made in unfolding the mystery surrounding the prehistory of the Dravidian speakers in India. Evidence are accumulating to show that there are close linkages between the present day Dravidian speakers and those ancients who established remarkable civilizations in the Indus, ancient Persia and in the valleys of Tigris-Euphrates, called respectively Melluha, Elam and Sumer. The claim David W. McAlpin 91974, 1975) that the ancient Elam is cognate with Dravidian seems to be have been well received by scholars. While uncertainties still surround the decipherment of the Indus script , Walter A.Fairservis Jr.(1986) concludes, after a careful consideration of a variety of factors, that Dravidian remains the best possible candidate for the Harappan language.

    Another conjecture that further strengthens the above hypothesis comes from J.V.Kinnier Wilson(1986). He claims that the Harappans and Sumerians were in fact the same people, that the Sumerians were in fact INDO-SUMERIANS, a small group of people who probably separated from the parent stock, the Harappans, settled in Sumeria and began to develop independently.

    Now in addition to the above thesis of Indo-Sumerian, we shall propose here what can be called the thesis of Sumero-Dravidians; that sometime after the second millennium B.C. when Sumer was sacked by Hammurabi and taken over by the semitic speaking people who lived initially in Akkad, a substantial number of Sumerians came to India particularly the extreme South and today constitute the basic population of the speakers of Tamil, Malayalam, Kannada, Tulu and other S.Dravidian languages and were probably the people who established the Sangam Culture around the period 800 B.C to 300 A.D . Evidences in favour of Sumero-Dravidian thesis are accumulating.


    In 1975, we have shown the existence of remarkable lexical correspondences between Sumerian and Dravidian (particularly S.Dravidian) for more than 200 lexical items. In 1982, it was shown that a line occurring in "Lamentations over the Destruction of Ur" transliterated and translated by S.N Kramer points to the possibility of the existence of an Academy very much like the Tamil Sagkam of the historical period even in Sumeria in those ancient days. There are also many similarities in literary conventions, stylistic features, metaphors and similes which when sufficiently well documented would constitute strong evidences for the thesis we are proposing here. We should also mention here that Hannah Fane (1980) appears to subscribe to this thesis as well.

    In the present paper, we propose to furnish additional evidences for the above thesis . The linguistic, literary and cultural similarities are so striking that thesis seems to essentially sound. The problem is mainly that of documentation. Since this area of study has not still attracted the attention of many scholars, a preliminary attempt is made here with the limited resources at our disposal with the hope that it would attract the attention of the relevant authorities who would then initiate more systematic studies of this sort.



    The best-known Dravidian languages are Tamil , Telugu , Kannada and Malayalam. There are three subgroups within the Dravidian linguistic family: North Dravidian, Central Dravidian, and South Dravidian, matching for the most part the corresponding regions in the Indian subcontinent.

    Dravidian languages are spoken by more than 200 million people. They appear to be unrelated to languages of other known families like Indo-European, specifically Indo-Aryan, which is the other common language family on the Indian subcontinent. Some linguistic scholars incorporate the Dravidian languages into a larger Elamo-Dravidian language family, which includes the ancient Elamite language (Haltami) of what is now south-western Iran. Dravidian is one of the primary linguistic groups in the proposed Nostratic language system, linking almost all languages in North Africa, Europe and Western Asia into a common family with its origins in the (Fertile Crescent sometime between the last Ice Age and the emergence of proto-Indo-European 4-6 thousand years BC


  • RogerCarmel
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    OK. The pictures you linked to show women from the Indian subcontinent. We have such women here but they are clothed in Western dress.

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  • DrSchadenfreude
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    This is a sumerian
    1. Homosexuality in Mesopotamia

    Mesopotamia represents a diversity of perspectives and opinions on homosexual conduct. In early Mesopotamia, homosexual conduct apparently received little attention. The earliest legal code known to humanity, the Code of Hammurabi (second millennium B.C.), is from ancient Mesopotamia and makes no mention of homosexual practices. However, later Mesopotamian law is not silent on the subject.

    Homosexuality in the City of Sumer: Perhaps the most ancient reference to homosexual conduct is contained in Sumerian legal documents. According to Sumerian law, wives had narrow legal rights in the marriage relationship. For example, adultery could only be committed by the wife against the husband, not vice versa; similarly divorce could only be initiated by the husband (as was the practice of Roman law centuries later). However, one legal document possibly suggests that special provisions were made in the event that a woman's husband was found to be a homosexual. Under such circumstances, a wife was permitted to divorce her husband and receive full benefits.

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post

    Those Sumerian women sure are dark haired.
    This is a sumerian woman https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...act=mrc&uact=8

    This is a sumerian woman
    https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...YP3d4ZJtG9L2co
    This is a sumerian woman https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=...61830527188153
    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...rl_c.1880s.jpg
    Last edited by adian1; 06-28-2019, 06:05 PM.

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by grgur View Post
    lol, when someone assumes that a sumerian word for anything is common knowledge I have to doubt that person's sanity
    Sesame oil was imported from the Indus River region into Sumer: the Sumerian word for this oil is illu (Akkadian: ellu). The word is of proto-Dravidian origin: in Dravidian languages of South India, el or ellu stands for sesame. Besides of this according to Michael Witzel, it derived from a "para-Munda" language spoken in the Indus Valley Civilization
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meluhh...EFMcIntosh2008

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    elamites are dravidian not semitics and dravidian and tamil , and scientists say dravidians and tamils have common genes with blacks
    M. Bamshad et al, "mtDNA Variation in Caste Populations" Human Biology v. 68 (1996) 1

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/4146545...n_tab_contents

    K.P.Aravanan, 'Physical and cultural similarities between Dravidian and African' , J. of Tamil Studies 10 (1976) 23-27

    .KP.Aravanan, 'Dravidians and Africans', Madras 1979.

    K.P. Aravanan, 'Notable negroid elements in Dravidian India', Journal of Tamil Studies 17 (1980) pp.20-45.
    Last edited by adian1; 06-27-2019, 01:33 PM.

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  • RogerCarmel
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    Originally posted by schweik View Post
    Those Sumerian women sure are dark haired.

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  • grgur
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    lol, when someone assumes that a sumerian word for anything is common knowledge I have to doubt that person's sanity

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  • adian1
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    another proof on sumerian tamil connexion
    sumerians genetically cognate with tamil
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/
    Linguistic and genetic Evidence connecting Sumer and Tamilsesame oililuelluelluhttps://www.harappa.com/answers/what...dus-people-eat
    Genetic evidence connecting Sumer and Tamilhttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192148/
    Last edited by adian1; 06-22-2019, 04:45 PM.

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by Elishar View Post

    What is your truth,,I think it is very much YOUR truth,, bent to give black people a starring role....It is not "The " truth...
    Were Neanderthals black ??? How did they come into being Without black Africa..Were denisovans black ?
    It seems that you have jumped on a tram which can only go where the rails go,,are you Too looking for a study grant ??
    no; it's the truth tamils and austric mundas are the black sumerians; elam is connected with tamils and with Munda tribe
    tamil cognates with sumerian
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYGWUv5Zhnw ,
    sumerian cognate with austric http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/sumer.htm
    Last edited by adian1; 06-22-2019, 04:26 PM.

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    they were blacks but Adolf Bloch doesn' t want to see that although he knows the truth , same with egyptians , it ' s because of it Hitler gain power and kill the jews
    so we must restore the truth
    What is your truth,,I think it is very much YOUR truth,, bent to give black people a starring role....It is not "The " truth...
    Were Neanderthals black ??? How did they come into being Without black Africa..Were denisovans black ?
    It seems that you have jumped on a tram which can only go where the rails go,,are you Too looking for a study grant ??

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    besides of this Keshava is the god of the sky of Indians , Keshava meaning which who execute and also also mean long haired
    he was named so because of his hairs , kes mean hair in Indian and in tamil
    proof sumerian is tamil and tamilbeing indians , sumerians are indians
    Black Indians with no black DNA....

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by Elishar View Post

    Hebrews ? Elam ben Shem... Elam means Olamin = eternity...
    There are several noteworthy persons in the scriptures given the name Elam one of them was in the time of the exodus Elam ben Kohath ben Levi...
    To whom is the colour of Tamils important..?
    they were blacks but Adolf Bloch doesn' t want to see that although he knows the truth , same with egyptians , it ' s because of it Hitler gain power and kill the jews
    so we must restore the truth

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  • adian1
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    you make an error sumerians call themselves sag gig ga
    sa? [front] sa? means "front side (math.)" which means face , something in face of us , something we are faced of
    sa? [HEAD] sa? means "head; person; capital" the equivalent in akkadian is qaqqadu; who means both head not hair
    sag means head , person ( a person , a people ) so sag gig means black people
    hair in sumerian is kezer,kezer [HAIR] not sag and kes means hair in dravidian
    hair is also siki [HAIR] and sikipa [HEAD-HAIR] siki-pa means "head hair "
    http://psd.museum.upenn.edu/epsd1/nepsd-frame.html
    so sumerians are black , they are the ancestors of tamils
    even scientists and panturquists claim sumerians are dravidians
    hungarians even claim sumerians are dravidians
    scientists also said they are austrics black ( Munda )
    http://asiapacificuniverse.com/pkm/sumer.htm
    which corroborated the sayings of the nationalist indians who said sumerians are dravidians and austrics
    sumerians are dravidians and austric blacks
    besides of this Keshava is the god of the sky of Indians , Keshava meaning which who execute and also also mean long haired
    he was named so because of his hairs , kes mean hair in Indian and in tamil
    proof sumerian is tamil and tamilbeing indians , sumerians are indians

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by adian1 View Post
    Eelam means earth in tamil they call it also azham , alam, ala, eel is earth in tamil, el is earth in turkic and ougrian langages
    ilim is earth in sumerian , and earth is elam in elamite which means a earth who spring out of the sea ,a earth which elevate itself , a mountain
    , also it is called haltamti ,which means burned bricks which show the elamites build their houses with
    in elamite haltamti and elam mean the land of the god
    hebrews adopt this meaning too
    Hebrews ? Elam ben Shem... Elam means Olamin = eternity...
    There are several noteworthy persons in the scriptures given the name Elam one of them was in the time of the exodus Elam ben Kohath ben Levi...
    To whom is the colour of Tamils important..?

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