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  • Ottoman empire in England and Iceland

    I was looking at list of Ottoman conquest, sieges and landings and I saw that Ottoman empire was in Iceland and England.

    Ottoman empire was at transformation times between 1550-1700 and It shows they were still powerful at transformation times.
    so, what are your thoughts on that?

    Source:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_Abductions
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...281550-1700.29
    Landings at Sussex, Plymouth 27 ships were taken away from its port), Devon, Hartland Point, Cornwall and the other counties of western England in August 1625
    Capture of the Isle of Lundy in the Bristol Channel. Lundy becomes the main base of the Ottoman marine operations in the Atlantic Ocean for the next 5 years 1627
    Capture of Vestmannaeyjar near Iceland 1627
    Landings in the Northern Atlantic including the British Isles, Shetland Islands, Faroe Islands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Iceland, Labrador, Gulf of Saint Lawrence, Newfoundland and Virginia 1627 1660
    Landings at Denmark, Norway and Iceland 1627
    Capture of Baltimore, County Cork, in Ireland 1631
    Landings at England, Ireland, Denmark and Iceland 1631
    Last edited by wanker_friend; 05-15-2017, 01:41 PM.

  • #2
    These were pirates operating from North Africa which was under partial Ottoman control at the time, but they generally weren't Turkish and the Ottomans had at best limited say over their activities.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post
      These were pirates operating from North Africa which was under partial Ottoman control at the time, but they generally weren't Turkish and the Ottomans had at best limited say over their activities.
      yes but ali bicin reis was Turkish and he was one of pirate commanders in invasion of iceland

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      • #4
        Some few individuals might have been Turkish as well, the pirates were a diverse bunch from all across Europe and the Mediterranean. Generally the ones sailing the Atlantic were rather of Dutch or other Western European origin though.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by wanker_friend View Post
          Ottoman empire was at transformation times between 1550-1700 and It shows they were still powerful at transformation times.
          so, what are your thoughts on that?
          When I look at the list of slave raids and "landings" across Europe then it doesn't look as if there was a powerful plan behind all those violence.

          The end of the Ottoman Empire was just a matter of time since about 1500 science and technology got a big boost in Europe other than in the Ottoman Empire.

          If you want to look at this period as still powerful or not is up to you.


          In dir muß brennen, was du in anderen entzünden willst. What you wish to kindle in others must burn within yourself. [Aurelius]

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          • #6
            here.. there are ottoman artifacts as well (at Aceh, Indonesia)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post
              Some few individuals might have been Turkish as well, the pirates were a diverse bunch from all across Europe and the Mediterranean. Generally the ones sailing the Atlantic were rather of Dutch or other Western European origin though.
              Piri reis and some turkish sailors went to atlantic ocean, too. and Piri reis made book about that it shows atlantic ocean islands, america, iceland etc. name of book is "Kitab-ı Bahriye"

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Suna123 View Post

                When I look at the list of slave raids and "landings" across Europe then it doesn't look as if there was a powerful plan behind all those violence.

                The end of the Ottoman Empire was just a matter of time since about 1500 science and technology got a big boost in Europe other than in the Ottoman Empire.

                If you want to look at this period as still powerful or not is up to you.

                I meant in sea, so, in my opinion ottoman empire was powerful in sea until 1829 and In war technology until 1683-1711

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                • #9
                  eh, obducting malnourished fishermen from the middle of atlantic sound more like scraping the bottom of a barrel rather than hegemony,

                  as for land war I'd say your guess is right, it was abouth that time that Eugene of Savoy demonstranted the progress of warfare in Europe
                  Why is it called a tourist season if we're not supposed to hunt them?

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                  • #10
                    The ottomon empire was short lived it was conquered and divided and it lost because they didn't have what it takes to be a ruling class .They were similar to mughals and sultan Delhi in this regard they conquered and then start enjoying rather then careful planning so its an old empire plus kamala himself declared turkey a secular nation so there is that

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by grgur View Post
                      eh, obducting malnourished fishermen from the middle of atlantic sound more like scraping the bottom of a barrel rather than hegemony,

                      as for land war I'd say your guess is right, it was abouth that time that Eugene of Savoy demonstranted the progress of warfare in Europe

                      ottoman sailors occupied madeira island from portugal for base attacks in 1617 they occupied iceland in 1627 (only for 1 month) used some iceland and england islands for base raids and attacks to other lands until 1660, they were mostly turkish and algerian (expect murat reis)

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by wanker_friend View Post


                        ottoman sailors occupied madeira island from portugal for base attacks in 1617 they occupied iceland in 1627 (only for 1 month) used some iceland and england islands for base raids and attacks to other lands until 1660, they were mostly turkish and algerian (expect murat reis)
                        Yes, and iceland was generally speaking, an empty and poor place that has nothing, danish largely ignored it for all purpises other than imposing tarrifes on fish exports
                        Why is it called a tourist season if we're not supposed to hunt them?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by wanker_friend View Post
                          they were mostly turkish and algerian (expect murat reis)
                          Janzoon was responsible for almost everything on your list, in Iceland there was later a second raid by pirates from Algeria that wasn't a part of his expedition but that's about it.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post

                            Janzoon was responsible for almost everything on your list, in Iceland there was later a second raid by pirates from Algeria that wasn't a part of his expedition but that's about it.
                            Yes, he is responsible because he was commander but pirates were "Turkish-Algerian"

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                            • #15
                              Janzoon was not a commander of the pirates sailing from Algiers after him, at the time he led the Republic of Salé in Atlantic North Africa (today a suburb of the Moroccan capital Rabat) that had been established by people fleeing the Inquisition in Spain. He had also been recruiting while visiting Dutch ports so that his crew at the time consisted likely of Dutchmen and Moriscos. Also Jews that had fled Spain to North Africa already earlier were quite commonly involved in piracy. It should be remembered that this was during the Eighty Years' War and these group were united by the common Spanish/Catholic enemy. For the same reason there were relatively many Englishmen involved.

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