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  • #76
    expelled isn't killed and the crusade link doesn't specify much in the way of numbers(also most larger crusades weren't in europe)
    you can't prove your number, you pulled it out of your arse

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    • #77
      Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
      The most exaggerated thing that I've heard nowadays
      "24 dead and 300 wounded in synagogues attacked by Turkish Great eastern raiders"
      I'll not be surprised if you call Usame Bin Laden as "Great Turkish eastern raider" somehow Turkish steppe-nomads were too good at fighthing and defeating the medieval terrorists who've massacred your ancestors: the Crusaders and Umayyads


      Turkiye has taken at least 3.5million Syrian refugees for today, so? Meanwhile they're kicking the refugees wildly or killing them in Europe by sinking their ships or torturing in jail.


      A typical ungrateful zionist, if you want to know what happens to ungrateful people, then just look at palestinians as of the "Arab revolt"
      This has nothing to do with ingratitude I am simply pointing out that your taktng us in meant a fortune for the sultan...You might say that in 1492 there was a "big bang" of humans,the Jews,,look carefully,all the countries which accepted jews profited,and spain crashed but this is NOT the point you raised...You tried to paint turkey in a good light,,I merely pointed out a modern day massacre of jews by turks,,it was on almost every news service of the world and you try to blame arabs...

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Elishar View Post

        This has nothing to do with ingratitude I am simply pointing out that your taktng us in meant a fortune for the sultan...You might say that in 1492 there was a "big bang" of humans,the Jews,,look carefully,all the countries which accepted jews profited,and spain crashed but this is NOT the point you raised...You tried to paint turkey in a good light,,I merely pointed out a modern day massacre of jews by turks,,it was on almost every news service of the world and you try to blame arabs...
        Jewish pogroms in Turkiye are massacres but WW2 and medieval Europe killing of millions of Jews isn't a genocide, keep behaving that way, your people will be divided as a volleyball ball between Muslims and Christians, no problem for us, that's your problem to get murdered more by christians

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        • #79
          Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
          Jewish pogroms in Turkiye are massacres
          ....of today very recently.

          Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
          but WW2 and medieval Europe killing of millions of Jew
          ...of the past 70 years ago.

          Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
          your people will be divided as a volleyball ball between Muslims and Christians, no problem for us, that's your problem to get murdered more by christians
          I have never heard Christians speaking so hateful about Jews like I have heard Muslims speaking full of hatred and bloodlust about Jews.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
            ....of today very recently.
            1934(84 years ago), also not because of Anti-Semitism but because of Jews' denying to speak Turkish.


            Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
            ...of the past 70 years ago.
            yep

            Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
            I have never heard Christians speaking so hateful about Jews like I have heard Muslims speaking full of hatred and bloodlust about Jews.
            Meanwhile history is full of Christian hatret against Jews, deal with reality

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            • #81
              Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
              hatret against Jews, deal with reality
              Turkey is full of Hitler-fanboys.

              A prominent AKP parliamentarian Samil Tayyar recently tweeted similar sentiments. “Hope your race disappears under many more new Hitlers,” he said in apparent reference to Jews. On July 19, the pro-government newspaper Yeni Akit ran a crossword puzzle in which the final answer, displayed under a photo of Hitler, could be translated as “We long for you.”

              In early 2005, a wave of anti-Israeli sentiment pushed Hitler’s Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the bestseller list in Turkey.


              http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...melection.html

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Suna123 View Post

                Turkey is full of Hitler-fanboys.

                A prominent AKP parliamentarian Samil Tayyar recently tweeted similar sentiments. “Hope your race disappears under many more new Hitlers,” he said in apparent reference to Jews. On July 19, the pro-government newspaper Yeni Akit ran a crossword puzzle in which the final answer, displayed under a photo of Hitler, could be translated as “We long for you.”

                In early 2005, a wave of anti-Israeli sentiment pushed Hitler’s Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the bestseller list in Turkey.


                http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...melection.html
                I don't know anyone in Turkey who is a fanboy of Hitler. First of all face your History then mess with Turks.

                Also, Documents of Armenian Genocide in last years, Shows that Armenian Genocide was maiden by order of German Generals in Ottoman Empire. (For Example: Fritz Bronsart von Schellendorf)
                https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frit...n_Schellendorf

                There is no nation who knows how to do genocide more than Germans.
                Last edited by Kulakjack; 01-11-2019, 11:59 AM.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Kulakjack View Post
                  I don't know anyone in Turkey who is a fanboy of Hitler.
                  maybe ask some AKP supporters

                  Originally posted by Kulakjack View Post
                  There is no nation who knows how to do genocide more than Germans.
                  Nobody ever denied that.

                  There is no nation who knows how to do whitewash their history more than Turks.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                    Jewish pogroms in Turkiye are massacres but WW2 and medieval Europe killing of millions of Jews isn't a genocide,
                    The word genocide was coined specifically in large part relating to the mass extermination of Jews in Europe:

                    In 1944, Raphael Lemkin created the term genocide in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe. The book describes the implementation of Nazi policies in occupied Europe, and cites earlier mass killings.[10] The term described the systematic destruction of a nation or people,[11] and the word was quickly adopted by many in the international community. The word genocide is the combination of the Greek prefix geno- (γένος, meaning 'race' or 'people') and caedere (the Latin word for "to kill").[12] The word genocide was used in indictments at the Nuremberg trials, held from 1945, but solely as a descriptive term, not yet as a formal legal term.
                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

                    So, as is almost always predictable with you, you are completely full of shit.

                    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                    keep behaving that way, your people will be divided as a volleyball ball between Muslims and Christians, no problem for us,
                    Islamic dogma is very explicit about murdering Jewish people and their real status in the Islamic hierarchy among animals such as monkeys and pigs. There are of course stories in the Sahih Ahadith about how nice Muhammad and others were to unclean animals such as dogs. Thing is, Islamic dogma is all about being nice to those not of the Islamic cult when it serves the purposes of the cult and being brutal and even genocidal when Non-muslims outlive their "usefulness" to Islam. Just like dogs being unclean, to be avoided and not allowed in houses - but they can still be used as guard dogs.

                    Christian dogma on the other hand doesn't have the explicit verses of the Quran or the Sahih Ahadith which call for persecution of and death to Jews. It tends to be inferred from "logic" of the type such as "the Jews killed Christ -> they are Christ-Killers -> therefore we must kill Jews".

                    So to change Christian attitudes towards Jews only requires pointing out that there is nothing explicitly telling Christians to kill Jews. On the other hand, Muslims who are neutral and even friendly to Jews merely need to be told that they are blaspheming if they are being positive to Jews when being negative towards them is "good for Islam" - going against what the Quran and the Sahih Ahadith explicitly say when it is bad for Islam is after all blasphemy.

                    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                    that's your problem to get murdered more by christians
                    Overall, there was far more genocides in general, enslavements and massacres committed by Islam than by Christianity - Islam's conquest of India was an orders of magnitude numerically far worse genocide than that committed by the Nazis against the Jews.

                    The role of the Mufti of Jerusalem in the holocaust remains an unresolved issue. It would be very interesting to find out what the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was chatting about with Hitler besides the weather in Berlin and the usual mutterings of getting the Nazis to help with Arab state independence:



                    Now, the interesting question is - what the hell is the Mufti of Jerusalem doing trotting around with Himmler in 1943 when, playing the diplomacy game, you would expect him of course to be meeting and lobbying Hitler as the head of state regarding Arab state independence. The other person you would expect to see photos of with the Mufti of Jerusalem would be von Ribbentrop because he was the foreign minister under Hitler. So, why the pics with Himmler in 1943????



                    Where are the pics with Ribbentrop and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?

                    Genocide against Jews and others has always been very Islamic. Whether it is peadophile Muhammad massacring Jews:

                    https://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza

                    the aforementioned Islamic genocide of Indians or the more recent genocides by the Ottomans.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                      The word genocide was coined specifically in large part relating to the mass extermination of Jews in Europe:



                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide

                      So, as is almost always predictable with you, you are completely full of shit.



                      Islamic dogma is very explicit about murdering Jewish people and their real status in the Islamic hierarchy among animals such as monkeys and pigs. There are of course stories in the Sahih Ahadith about how nice Muhammad and others were to unclean animals such as dogs. Thing is, Islamic dogma is all about being nice to those not of the Islamic cult when it serves the purposes of the cult and being brutal and even genocidal when Non-muslims outlive their "usefulness" to Islam. Just like dogs being unclean, to be avoided and not allowed in houses - but they can still be used as guard dogs.

                      Christian dogma on the other hand doesn't have the explicit verses of the Quran or the Sahih Ahadith which call for persecution of and death to Jews. It tends to be inferred from "logic" of the type such as "the Jews killed Christ -> they are Christ-Killers -> therefore we must kill Jews".

                      So to change Christian attitudes towards Jews only requires pointing out that there is nothing explicitly telling Christians to kill Jews. On the other hand, Muslims who are neutral and even friendly to Jews merely need to be told that they are blaspheming if they are being positive to Jews when being negative towards them is "good for Islam" - going against what the Quran and the Sahih Ahadith explicitly say when it is bad for Islam is after all blasphemy.



                      Overall, there was far more genocides in general, enslavements and massacres committed by Islam than by Christianity - Islam's conquest of India was an orders of magnitude numerically far worse genocide than that committed by the Nazis against the Jews.

                      The role of the Mufti of Jerusalem in the holocaust remains an unresolved issue. It would be very interesting to find out what the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was chatting about with Hitler besides the weather in Berlin and the usual mutterings of getting the Nazis to help with Arab state independence:



                      Now, the interesting question is - what the hell is the Mufti of Jerusalem doing trotting around with Himmler in 1943 when, playing the diplomacy game, you would expect him of course to be meeting and lobbying Hitler as the head of state regarding Arab state independence. The other person you would expect to see photos of with the Mufti of Jerusalem would be von Ribbentrop because he was the foreign minister under Hitler. So, why the pics with Himmler in 1943????



                      Where are the pics with Ribbentrop and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem?

                      Genocide against Jews and others has always been very Islamic. Whether it is peadophile Muhammad massacring Jews:

                      https://wikiislam.net/wiki/The_Genocide_of_Banu_Qurayza

                      the aforementioned Islamic genocide of Indians or the more recent genocides by the Ottomans.
                      Adolf Hitler requested help from the imam of Jerusalem to recruit troops from Muslim population in Africa, Middle East and Europe(Bosnian Muslims)
                      Bosnian troops of Nazi Germany.
                      İmam of Jerusalem and Bosnian Muslim troops of Nazi Germany:

                      BTW Muslims were only active for the wars against British-French imperialism and Soviet Union, not against the Jewish ethnic cleansing. Jewish ethnic cleansing is commited by Europeans as always It shows Hitler wasn't a fascist against Muslims otherwise he would force Muslims to join instead requesting help from the imam of Jerusalem.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
                        maybe ask some AKP supporters
                        Nobody ever denied that.

                        There is no nation who knows how to do wash their history more than Turks.
                        umm, source?
                        your country indeed is too shameless at creating non-existing genocides to whitewash itself, like to create non-existing and non-based genocides like "armenian-greek-assyrian" genocide claims to make people forget about holocaust of WW2

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Suna123 View Post

                          Turkey is full of Hitler-fanboys.

                          A prominent AKP parliamentarian Samil Tayyar recently tweeted similar sentiments. “Hope your race disappears under many more new Hitlers,” he said in apparent reference to Jews. On July 19, the pro-government newspaper Yeni Akit ran a crossword puzzle in which the final answer, displayed under a photo of Hitler, could be translated as “We long for you.”

                          In early 2005, a wave of anti-Israeli sentiment pushed Hitler’s Mein Kampf and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to the bestseller list in Turkey.


                          http://america.aljazeera.com/opinion...melection.html
                          I hope you know Şamil Tayyar is from your beloved people's ancestry as he is of Kurdish origin, and Jews love Kurds too, so let's stop to blame them
                          Yeni Akit isn't pro-government, it's radical Islamic, something like wahhabism
                          Turkish government is moderate Islamic and Secularist.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                            umm, source?
                            your country indeed is too shameless at creating non-existing genocides to whitewash itself, like to create non-existing and non-based genocides like "armenian-greek-assyrian" genocide claims to make people forget about holocaust of WW2
                            it is Armenians and Greeks who blame the Turks for genocide with right. Germans acknowledged their proofs and join them in commemoration of the victims as is the whole world (apart from Muslims) for the genocide at the Jews in Germany as well.

                            Acknowledging atrocities of the past helps to prevent their repetition in the future.
                            Learning from history is essential - something what the Turks did not learn yet.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                              Yeni Akit isn't pro-government, it's radical Islamic, something like wahhabism
                              shall we bet they recommended their readers to vote for great Sultan Erdogan?
                              How come radical Islam is fan of Hitler - what a surprise...not

                              Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                              Turkish government is moderate Islamic and Secularist.
                              be patient with your government it will flourish soon to its fullest beauty - الله أَكْبَر

                              PS:
                              Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                              I hope you know Şamil Tayyar is from your beloved people's ancestry as he is of Kurdish origin
                              it is actually pretty interesting that you divide Turks in Turks and Kurds and seem to dislike the Kurds even if they support your beloved Sultan. Pretty racist, isn't it? The Turks in Germany are all equally Turks - no difference visible.

                              PPS: btw. Cem Özdemir is seen as a German and not Turk by most Germans. Good German politician
                              Last edited by Suna123; 01-11-2019, 01:12 PM.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                                Adolf Hitler requested help from the imam of Jerusalem to recruit troops from Muslim population in Africa, Middle East and Europe(Bosnian Muslims)
                                Bosnian troops of Nazi Germany.
                                İmam of Jerusalem and Bosnian Muslim troops of Nazi Germany:

                                BTW Muslims were only active for the wars against British-French imperialism and Soviet Union, not against the Jewish ethnic cleansing. Jewish ethnic cleansing is commited by Europeans as always It shows Hitler wasn't a fascist against Muslims otherwise he would force Muslims to join instead requesting help from the imam of Jerusalem.
                                He requested an imam from there because no bosnian imam would join in on the stupidity, and bosniaks took part in plenty of atrocities committed there, as a part of both handschar division and black legion.

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