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  • I'm a human, I respect all creatures

    Is not because there is no law that protect this creature I will kill them. No I will not, it's from my humanity, my respect to all creatures.



    Do really human always need to be under authority, rules so would respect and deal respectfully?

  • #2
    As long as insects respect me and stay out of my house or not bite me then I will respect them....otherwise I squash them.

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    • #3
      You are heading straight towards Jainism. Before long you’ll be walking around with a veil over your mouth to prevent yourself from inadvertently breathing in an insect. And you’ll walk around with a broom to sweep the path before you lest you crush a cockroach under your foot.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dark-Matter View Post
        As long as insects respect me and stay out of my house or not bite me then I will respect them....otherwise I squash them.
        They think you build your house, on theirs. Not the other way around.

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        • #5
          I wonder if the OP realize that these creatures are killing each other, for food, for territory, for mate, etc?

          They just aren't as smart as human, that's all. If they are, then they'll probably just do the same as human do now.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Han1977 View Post
            I wonder if the OP realize that these creatures are killing each other, for food, for territory, for mate, etc?

            They just aren't as smart as human, that's all. If they are, then they'll probably just do the same as human do now.
            You could find almost everything in the nature, but I think it's very difficult to know what another species would do if they were as "smart" as humans. For example, an animal like an elephant would probably not be cattle breeders.

            As for not killing animals, I guess not taking shower would be a rule for the most extremists, or even not eating at all and just die, but yet again, you would kill billions of creatures by dying yourself.
            Not killing freely a creature, however, is something that might be important and respectable, at least in order to prove yourself and people aroundd you that you don't have some tendencies to be a psychopath. Once again, the "freely" is debatable and I personally think that killing a mosquito that eats you all the night or some insects destroying either your clothes or your house is unavoidable. On the other hand, I don't think that killing a small insect or a spider just because you are afraid of it is unavoidable at all, especially when they are innofensives.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Marven09 View Post

              Do really human always need to be under authority, rules so would respect and deal respectfully?
              Not being under authority is basically called anarchism, and I tend to think that it is a cute utopy.

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              • #8
                ...my neighbors respect all creatures too... especially fucking cockroaches

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sancta_Lux View Post
                  ...but I think it's very difficult to know what another species would do if they were as "smart" as humans...
                  Sure it's difficult, but I think human shares many similar natural instinct with their animals family. If we agree with psychology theory that personality and behavior, is the result of a dialogue and tension between natural instinct and conscious intelligent mind, then there is a good chance that once other species become as "smart" as human, they would develop similar personality and behavior with human.

                  Of course there will be a spectrum, instead of definite black and white.

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                  So my argument stand on these two premises :
                  1. Human and animals shares many similar natural/basic instinct. Such as instinct to survive, instinct to reproduce, etc.
                  2. Behavior and personality, is the result of dynamic dialogue between natural instinct and conscious mind.

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                  On another note, there are species who develop a very different strategy to survive compare to human. Ie : insects who lives in group like ants/bees/etc.

                  So yeah, depend on what species, they might develop different policy when they become as smart as human

                  ADD::: I think it's a good source of ideas for science fiction writer, what if ant becomes as smart as human, what if cockroaches do, what if fish do, etc.
                  Last edited by Han1977; 11-17-2018, 01:33 PM.

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                  • #10
                    animals act out of nature. however, humans have opportunities to act out of nature. though they have brain function, animals' brains aren't as developed as humans. Therefore, we have an obligation to act in a way animals can't--out of morality. The OP did the right thing, and I agree with him.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by SoCalwife View Post
                      animals act out of nature. however, humans have opportunities to act out of nature. though they have brain function, animals' brains aren't as developed as humans. Therefore, we have an obligation to act in a way animals can't--out of morality. The OP did the right thing, and I agree with him.
                      That's a great opinion. I will easily agree with it, but to keep the discussion going I have 2 question then.

                      1. How you would act when you're faced with a situation, where two animals are in conflict where it will end, with one of them would kill the other?

                      2. What would you do with animals that actually put human to danger? Maybe wild animals that prey on human. Or even harder to deal with, animals that spread disease and plague (rats, mosquito, etc)?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SoCalwife View Post
                        animals act out of nature. however, humans have opportunities to act out of nature. though they have brain function, animals' brains aren't as developed as humans. Therefore, we have an obligation to act in a way animals can't--out of morality. The OP did the right thing, and I agree with him.
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                        We CANNOT act out of nature. Everything we're capable of is part of our nature, and everything we aren't capable of isn't part of our nature. So as with any other animal. Can't you see that by affirming we can act out of nature you're automatically implying that we are special somehow? Evolution taught us we're part of nature, not something aside of it.

                        "animals' brains aren't as developed as humans." -- WE created terms such as developed and undeveloped, civilized and uncivilized. Nature as far as we know is unmotivated and couldn't care less about how many bridges we've made.
                        Last edited by noskin; 12-04-2018, 12:34 PM.

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