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  • #91
    Originally posted by Tux1 View Post
    It doesn't prove anything and I'm not sure who criticized them for that - maybe you should quote who you're responding to?
    You indicated that Germans of Turkish origin are somehow working for Erdogan, while their political behavior is actually the opposite. The Erdogan fanboys in Germany are either non-nationals or at least have had no political impact whatsoever.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post

      You indicated that Germans of Turkish origin are somehow working for Erdogan, while their political behavior is actually the opposite. The Erdogan fanboys in Germany are either non-nationals or at least have had no political impact whatsoever.
      Immigrants who are members of Merkel's CDU have been warning about infiltration of the CDU by Turkish nationalists and Erdogan supporters:

      http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016...gan-lobbyists/

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      • #93
        You mean Breitbart is spreading ridiculous far-right propaganda as usual. CDU - the Christian Democratic Union - has no issue with Turkish nationalists and rather few Turkish members/voters in general.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post
          You mean Breitbart is spreading ridiculous far-right propaganda as usual. CDU - the Christian Democratic Union - has no issue with Turkish nationalists and rather few Turkish members/voters in general.
          Refute with evidence please, not with your pathetic usual postmodernist namecalling.

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          • #95
            Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post

            You indicated that Germans of Turkish origin are somehow working for Erdogan, while their political behavior is actually the opposite. The Erdogan fanboys in Germany are either non-nationals or at least have had no political impact whatsoever.
            No, I didn't. But, I did state, accurately, that they support Turkish 'control' of Germany. Just look at the statements of many Turkish politicians in Germany, for e.g., Akkaya Cigdem and Vural Öger. Moreover, they're all in the far-left left-wing parties, Green, SPD and Left, all who have spoke about a desire to replace or change the native German population. Anyway, you constantly lie and accuse people of stating things they never did.
            Last edited by Tux1; 03-20-2017, 11:11 PM.

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            • #96
              Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post
              You mean Breitbart is spreading ridiculous far-right propaganda as usual. CDU - the Christian Democratic Union - has no issue with Turkish nationalists and rather few Turkish members/voters in general.
              So, you investigated the report already?

              "Co-author Salim Cakmak said: “The Union is being infiltrated by Turkish nationalists and Erdoğan lobbyists.”"

              'Salim Cakmak' sounds like a Turk to me. And CDU politicians apparently said they think the report should be 'taken seriously.' Breitbart is lying about that, too? Yes, they are biased and their agenda is clear to some but these allegations don't sound inaccurate and you didn't dispute it with evidence like the other poster said. Typical left-wing reaction of someone with no clue, who lies and doesn't use their brain. These kinds of people are dangerous especially when they are allowed to vote.

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              • #97
                Here's Erdogan threatening about "Europeans' safety":

                KASTAMONU, Turkey — President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey warned Europeans on Wednesday that they would no longer be able to walk safely in the street if Western politicians continued with perceived provocations against Turkish leaders.
                https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/w...rope.html?_r=0

                Looks very threatening and blackmailing to me..

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Tux1 View Post
                  So, you investigated the report already?

                  "Co-author Salim Cakmak said: “The Union is being infiltrated by Turkish nationalists and Erdoğan lobbyists.”"

                  'Salim Cakmak' sounds like a Turk to me. And CDU politicians apparently said they think the report should be 'taken seriously.' Breitbart is lying about that, too? Yes, they are biased and their agenda is clear to some but these allegations don't sound inaccurate and you didn't dispute it with evidence like the other poster said. Typical left-wing reaction of someone with no clue, who lies and doesn't use their brain. These kinds of people are dangerous especially when they are allowed to vote.
                  It's just an unusually ridiculous hoax, the whole issue doesn't exist.

                  What this Salim Cakmak really said is apparently that in his German-Turkish CDU organization "Union der Vielfalt" there are around 300 members in total, out of which 50-60 he sees as Erdogan loyalists when it comes to Turkish politics. To put things in perspective CDU has 431 000 members.

                  http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/deutsc...icle_id=362203

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post

                    It's just an unusually ridiculous hoax, the whole issue doesn't exist.

                    What this Salim Cakmak really said is apparently that in his German-Turkish CDU organization "Union der Vielfalt" there are around 300 members in total, out of which 50-60 he sees as Erdogan loyalists when it comes to Turkish politics. To put things in perspective CDU has 431 000 members.

                    http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/deutsc...icle_id=362203
                    60 lobbyists in an organisation is a lot when working together...

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                    • Originally posted by -Lauri- View Post

                      It's just an unusually ridiculous hoax, the whole issue doesn't exist.

                      What this Salim Cakmak really said is apparently that in his German-Turkish CDU organization "Union der Vielfalt" there are around 300 members in total, out of which 50-60 he sees as Erdogan loyalists when it comes to Turkish politics. To put things in perspective CDU has 431 000 members.

                      http://www.deutschlandfunk.de/deutsc...icle_id=362203
                      And what about all the Turks who are 'on the left' - and all those that keep their mouth shut about Erdogan support? The fact, the issue became large and significant enough to make it onto left-wing German ('fake') news sources seems to indicate that it is a major concern so hoax? I don't think so. You're just spinning and lying again which is your method.

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                      • New song for Erdogan... awaiting also version with English subtitles!!!!


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                        • Originally posted by dogasele View Post
                          guys I'm from turkey and erdogan is the dumbest president. I'm sorry for that. he shouldn't say it bu he did. erdogan embarrasses us.
                          Doga you are embrassing us as well.Why dont you go to Europe and live with those Nazis?

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                          • I don't think Erdogan is a national socialist...I think that as a Turkish megalomaniac he wants to restore part of the Turkish caliphate back into the middle east,kurdistan Syria,maybe parts of Iraq and Lebanon...
                            At the same time he wears his true hat,, his moslem hat and he wants " to the gates of Vienna " and beyond because where moslem rule has been,,,for moslems it must return,,mustn't forget the holly koran....

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                            • Originally posted by s7e7w7e7n View Post
                              Doga you are embrassing us as well.Why dont you go to Europe and live with those Nazis?
                              Why should she? Turkey is her country. Very Islamofascist of you to suggest that.

                              In any case, if she wanted to stay in a real Nazi-like country, she can stay in Turkey.

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                              • Yes, Turkey has been spying on Turks in Germany:

                                http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39416954

                                "Outside Turkey I don't think anyone believes that the Gulen movement was behind the attempted putsch," said German spy chief Hans-Georg Maassen. "At any rate I don't know anyone outside Turkey who has been convinced by the Turkish government."
                                And Lower Saxony Interior Minister Boris Pistorius went further, saying, "We have to say very clearly that it involves a fear of conspiracy you can class as paranoid."
                                Yes, the Turkish government looks more and more like paranoid neo-Nazi conspiracy nutters.

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