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    Croat war criminal dies after taking poison in UN courtroom

    Former commander Slobodan Praljak drank from bottle moments after judges upheld 20-year sentence in The Hague

    Slobodan Praljak, 72, died in hospital, with the UN court announcing that the courtroom was now "a crime scene".

    On hearing that his 20-year jail term had been upheld, the ex-commander of Bosnian Croat forces said he was not a criminal and then drank from a bottle.


    In 2013, he was sentenced for crimes in the city of Mostar during the Bosnian war from 1992-95.

    Praljak was one of six former Bosnian Croat political and military leaders up before the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY).



    After hearing the verdict, General Praljak stood and raised his hand to his mouth, tipped his head back and appeared to swallow a glass of liquid.

    "I have taken poison," he said.




    The Bosnian Croats sentenced

    • Jadranko Prlic, prime minister of the Croat statelet Herzeg-Bosnia: 25 years

    • Bruno Stojic, defence minister of Herzeg-Bosnia: 20 years

    • Slobodan Praljak, HVO chief: 20 years

    • Milivoje Petkovic, deputy commander of HVO: 20 years

    • Valentin Coric, commander of HVO's military police: 16 years

    • Berislav Pusic, president of Herzeg-Bosnia's Commission for the Exchange of Prisoners: 10 years




    Praljak was charged with ordering the destruction of Mostar’s 16th-century bridge in November 1993, which judges in the first trial had said “caused disproportionate damage to the Muslim civilian population”.

    A symbol of Bosnia’s devastation in the war, the Ottoman-era bridge was later rebuilt. The city experienced some of the worst of the Croat-Muslim clashes, with nearly 80% of its eastern area destroyed in the fighting.

    The tribunal, which last week convicted former Bosnian Serb military chief General Ratko Mladic of genocide and other crimes, was set up in 1993 while fighting still raged in the former Yugoslavia.

    It indicted 161 suspects and convicted 90 of them.

    The 1992-95 war in Bosnia, in which 100,000 people died and 2.2 million were displaced, mainly pitted Bosnian Muslims against Bosnian Serbs, but also saw brutal fighting between Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats after an initial alliance fell apart.


    The proceedings on Wednesday came a week after the judges imposed a life sentence on the former Bosnian Serb commander Ratko Mladić, whose ruthlessness in the conflict earned him the title of “butcher of Bosnia”.

    Herceg-Bosna, backed by the government of the Croatian nationalist leader Franjo Tuđman, was formally dismantled in 1996 as part of the peace deal that ended the war. The “president” of Herceg-Bosna, Mate Boban, died in 1997 and Tuđman in 1999, leaving Prlić the highest-ranking Bosnian Croat official to face prosecution for the crimes.


    The ICTY charged Praljak and his co-defendants in 2004. The six surrendered with Croatia under pressure to comply with the court in return for joining the EU.


    Praljak is not the first defendant to die in ICTY custody at The Hague. The former Croatian Serb leader Milan Babić killed himself at the nearby Scheveningen detention centre in 2006. Another Croatian Serb, Slavko Dokmanović, was found hanging from the door of his cell in 1998.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42163613

    http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/1...171937067.html

    https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017...obodan-praljak

    croatians and their politicians praised his war crimes

    The Croatian prime minister, Andrej Plenković, had earlier confirmed Praljak’s death after it was initially reported on Croatian state TV and offered his condolences to the family.


    Plenković said: “His act, which we regrettably saw today, mostly speaks about a deep moral injustice towards six Croats from Bosnia and the Croatian people ... We voice dissatisfaction and regret about the verdict.”

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    Good job that this ugly bearded rat brings justice himself. Finally he has founded purist croatia like that




  • #2
    Yeah, no spineless turk coward would have the guts to off himself, erdogan whines if meda makes satirical cartoons in germany

    Edit;: Another thing to note is that in quoted parts croat and croatian were used correctly, BT is naturally is incapable of that so he proceeds to make mistakes in his own text
    Last edited by grgur; 12-05-2017, 04:29 PM.

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    • #3

      Do you think he was a hero for your country?


      Originally posted by grgur View Post
      Edit;: Another thing to note is that in quoted parts croat and croatian were used correctly, BT is naturally is incapable of that so he proceeds to make mistakes in his own text
      Who cares how a shitbag is written?
      Originally posted by grgur View Post
      Yeah, no spineless turk coward would have the guts to off himself, erdogan whines if meda makes satirical cartoons in germany
      Because it wasnt Erdogan who did this to them, idiot.

      Lets hope there'll be more croat and serbian rapists with spines to do the same thing and take their own lives. He didnt feel guilty for horrible crimes he and his men did, he said he wasnt a war criminal even though it's proven he was. Not only a war criminal with an ugly beard but also a dishonest liar.

      Tens of thousands of croat and serbian rapists are alive, not persecuted and living only a few kms away to their victims today. There must be a Bosnian hunt team to track and hunt them down for crimes they committed and went unpunished:

      Twenty-five years have passed since Rana was raped but she remembers like it was yesterday. It was 6pm on the 9 May 1992 when Serbian soldiers attacked her Bosnian village in Brcko District, burnt down hers and many of her neighbours’ homes and took her to a forest.

      “There were many soldiers in the field,” she remembers. “One of them told me to undress but I said no. He hit me and pushed me to the ground. It was the same man who had set fire to my house. Then he raped me. The other soldiers stood around and watched. He told them to rape me too and so I was raped again. Twice.

      “They had their eyes set on teenage girls,” she says. “Many of the girls wore their father’s big shirts to cover their bodies. If you looked feminine or if they knew you previously and wanted sex they would just take you. Probably 10 were raped every night.

      No one knows how many girls and women were sexually abused during the genocide but the figures are huge. Estimates range from 20,000 to 50,000. Most of the rapists have since faced no prosecution or punishment but many of the victims still regularly see their rapists in the local neighbourhood.

      Dr Branka Antic-Stauber currently counsels 150 women, many of whom have only recently revealed they were raped. She says some of the women have tracked the perpetrators down on Facebook. “They follow them to know where they are. One of my women knows the man’s birthday and the names and ages of his kids.”

      Of the tens of thousands of these abuses just a handful of men have been found guilty in the last two decades. Branka believes much of that is due to a lack of political appetite: “Justice is so difficult to achieve, especially now that we have three divided political parties. The perpetrators on one side are seen as heroes and are protected because to their people they were on the right side and whatever they did was for their own people.”

      The lack of retribution or acknowledgement of a crime is damaging and can hinder the healing process. Branka says, “Four men who raped eight girls, gang raped them, the women pointed to the men in court and said it was them, and there’s no doubt these women went through sexual abuse, but that’s not enough evidence to prosecute the perpetrators so they were released. Now they live just 20 kilometres from the men, just 10 minutes by car, and they know them because they’re just in the neighbouring town, but still these men were released to return to their homes.

      Branka thinks the graffiti reveals much more than an attitude towards women. She feels it also betrays their fear. Ten years ago she organised a meeting between some of the soldiers and some of the female victims to try to heal both sides. “The women had questions,” she says. “They wanted to know why no one helped to save them. It was a UN-protected zone. So it meant a lot to the women to talk to the soldiers.”




      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/lo...-a7846546.html

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
        Do you think he was a hero for your country?
        He defended Sunja from serbs and managed to keep the muslims from ethnically cleansing Herzegovina, I'd say that's rather useful.


        Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
        Who cares how a shitbag is written?
        Bosphorus Taurus

        Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
        Because it wasnt Erdogan who did this to them, idiot.
        yeah he just sanctions rapes and burning of transgender women as well as sponsor terrorists

        Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
        Lets hope there'll be more croat and serbian rapists with spines to do the same thing and take their own lives. He didnt feel guilty for horrible crimes he and his men did, he said he wasnt a war criminal even though it's proven he was. Not only a war criminal with an ugly beard but also a dishonest liar.
        He already served 13+ years, he could've just done few more and get out on good behaviour
        A dead man has little reason to lie the whiny internet bitches, liars and sychophants can just rage over it as neither them nor the court could force him to accept their shit.

        Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
        Tens of thousands of croat and serbian rapists are alive, not persecuted and living only a few kms away to their victims today. There must be a Bosnian hunt team to track and hunt them down for crimes they committed and went unpunished:
        Indeed there are plenty of croat and serb murderers and rapists still around in BiH, a large number of them just happens to be muslim.

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        • #5
          Honorable man.

          Fucking Islamists and progressive commies will never understand what honor means.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
            Honorable man.

            Fucking Islamists and progressive commies will never understand what honor means.
            death and dishonor ... or protect the honor and dignity and death facing the country's people.
            Last edited by dmitri11; 12-06-2017, 11:53 AM.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by grgur View Post

              He defended Sunja from serbs and managed to keep the muslims from ethnically cleansing Herzegovina, I'd say that's rather useful.
              He first got allied with Bosnians against serbian rapists because he thought to murder and finish Bosnians later cause he thought they're piece of cake compared to serbian enemy. He murdered civilians and NATO bulldozed both croats and serbians. Both croats and serbians failed as a result.

              He was a pussy croat and he died like a pussy croat. And croats consider a pussy croat as a 'hero'. Perfecto.

              Originally posted by grgur View Post
              Bosphorus Taurus
              He doesnt care if it's croat or croatian. Same shit.

              Originally posted by grgur View Post
              yeah he just sanctions rapes and burning of transgender women as well as sponsor terrorists
              Another lie. Erdogan was never around when croat and serbian bloodthirsty rapists of little children were raping Bosnian civilians.

              Originally posted by grgur View Post
              He already served 13+ years, he could've just done few more and get out on good behaviour
              Good rapist behaviour.

              Originally posted by grgur View Post
              A dead man has little reason to lie the whiny internet bitches, liars and sychophants can just rage over it as neither them nor the court could force him to accept their shit.
              No one bought his ridiculous denial and lies. Even western judge didnt buy it. He'll be burning in hell forever, that's now better. I suggest you watch uncensored video, he drank the poison and judge kept process on trial, they didnt even care what he drank and then he shouted he drank poison to take attention of judge. Maybe he wished his life be spared in the last minute by taking him to hospital.lol. But hey, maybe he was playing dead. His folks are that dishonest, you cannot even trust rapists when they pretend to be dead.

              Originally posted by grgur View Post
              Indeed there are plenty of croat and serb murderers and rapists still around in BiH, a large number of them just happens to be muslim.
              Read what i posted above. It's been proven billions of times that croat and serbian christians were rapists in Bosnian Genocide. still some croats and serbians consider their proven, documented rapists as their national hero, disgusting!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post

                He first got allied with Bosnians against serbian rapists because he thought to murder and finish Bosnians later cause he thought they're piece of cake compared to serbian enemy. He murdered civilians and NATO bulldozed both croats and serbians. Both croats and serbians failed as a result.

                He was a pussy croat and he died like a pussy croat. And croats consider a pussy croat as a 'hero'. Perfecto.
                lol, nah you as usually know nothing, bosniaks first allied with croatian irregulars called HoS and later iztetbegović and the ever useless mujahedeen messed it up.
                The war in Bosnia was resolved when CROATIAN army(as in from croatia, not the ones in bosnia which were largely on defensive) was allowed to intervene

                The first military effort coordinated between the HVO and the ARBiH, following the Washington Agreement, was the advance towards Kupres that was rekaten from the VRS on 3 November 1994.[235] On 29 November, the HV and the HVO initiated Operation Winter '94 in southwestern Bosnia. After a month of fighting, Croat forces had taken around 200 square kilometres (77 square miles) of VRS-held territory and directly threatened the main supply route between Republika Srpska and Knin, the capital of RSK. The primary objective of relieving pressure on the Bihać pocket was not achieved, although the ARBiH repelled VRS attacks on the enclave
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_War

                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                He doesnt care if it's croat or croatian. Same shit.
                yeah, either way BT's a shitbag


                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                Another lie. Erdogan was never around when croat and serbian bloodthirsty rapists of little children were raping Bosnian civilians.
                Yeeah, he's around to whine about germans and dutch being racist while spineless turks rape their own women as well as syrian immigrants

                http://www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/02...rape-of-woman/
                - or go all the way to japan to do it

                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                Good rapist behaviour.
                lol, "rapist", dude has more diplomas than you have brain cells(hint it's 3) but anyway that's how law works and you're not making a point

                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                No one bought his ridiculous denial and lies. Even western judge didnt buy it. He'll be burning in hell forever, that's now better. I suggest you watch uncensored video, he drank the poison and judge kept process on trial, they didnt even care what he drank and then he shouted he drank poison to take attention of judge. Maybe he wished his life be spared in the last minute by taking him to hospital.lol. But hey, maybe he was playing dead. His folks are that dishonest, you cannot even trust rapists when they pretend to be dead.
                If you think he was trying not to die than you're a moron, since he clearly poisoned himself, and said I just drank poison. I'ts kind of obvious to anyone with more than a quarter of a brain function left.

                He also actually went to court, whilst say Talaat pasha had to be hunted down like a dog by the armenians he wronged

                Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                Read what i posted above. It's been proven billions of times that croat and serbian christians were rapists in Bosnian Genocide. still some croats and serbians consider their proven, documented rapists as their national hero, disgusting!
                yeah in eastern bosnia which has like 0 croats, and where neither HVO, nor HV nor HOS were active


                I mean you clearly have no clue what you're talking about as usual.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                  Another lie. Erdogan was never around when croat and serbian bloodthirsty rapists of little children were raping Bosnian civilians.
                  A number of other things can be said about the OP's rather big fetish for things more in the past where there is the rather unusual case of crimes committed against Muslims by Nonmuslims.

                  But I guess that the events of Post Communist Yugoslavia are more "comfortable" for the OP given that right next to Turkey you have the Syrian Civil War which still continues where over 500 000 have died so far. But they shouldn't be tried at The Hague in his rather warped and sick reality... I guess for a cultist Islamist that Muslim on Muslim murders (which are a few orders of magnitude higher than Muslims being murdered by Nonmuslims) can't be tried in non-sharia courts....

                  While BosphorusBoy is happy "resolving" the war crimes of others, he is also very unable in the least to actually look a little closer to home - to Turkey itself - such as the events in Cyprus during/after 1974:

                  http://www.missing-cy.org/introduction.html

                  or much more recently in Turkey itself:







                  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36354742

                  Yes, the world should know more and more about a place called Cizre. No, those pictures are not Syria or Iraq - that's Turkey!!!!!

                  I guess that Praljak's suicide frees up The Hague's War Criminal Prison for an extra cell.... so who should be the new occupant from all the Turkish war criminals who need to be tried? Some old Turkish general, some Grey Wolf thug or perhaps Erdogan himself?

                  Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                  Read what i posted above. It's been proven billions of times that croat and serbian christians were rapists in Bosnian Genocide. still some croats and serbians consider their proven, documented rapists as their national hero, disgusting!
                  "Billions of times"??? Firstly, lets look at your propensity to exaggerate... That seems to be very much the issue of you headbanging according to the dictates of your cult 5 times a day. The manner in which you formatted this OP is very indicative of the fact that you might well be suffering from frontotemporal damage to your brain.

                  Sure there were Croat and Serbian Christians performing crimes during the war.... It's good that the civilised world is dealing with such war crimes unlike the uncivilised world like Turkey or most of the rest of the Islamic world which doesn't try war criminals.

                  The thing is, when you have cults like Islam.. they are unable to acknowledge their own crimes. For example, we don't exactly see BosphorusBoy OPing topics about all the head chopper Islamists in Syria murdering each other in the 100's of thousands, the ethnic cleansing of Christians and other minorities by Sunni Islamists in Syria and Iraq or even for that matter Islamists murdering other Islamists of the "wrong" sect in Yemen in the 10 000s.

                  And talking about justice not being handed out - there's still that gap or 1 1/2 million Armenians, Assyrians and Greeks murdered in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire.. but of course for an Islamist with concussive damage to the brain from continual daily headbanging, it is easy to justify the murder of 1 1/2 million Nonmuslims while endlessly whining about the massacre and rape of far far fewer Muslims in the Bosnian conflict.

                  Last edited by aussieinbg; 12-08-2017, 12:22 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post

                    Read what i posted above. It's been proven billions of times that croat and serbian christians were rapists in Bosnian Genocide. still some croats and serbians consider their proven, documented rapists as their national hero, disgusting!
                    how cruel is that. But what you try to hide is the rape done by Turkish soldiers in wartimes and the rape done by the Ottomans on the Balkans. Maybe they learned from your own ancestors how to humiliate your enemy most efficiently? Lets talk about this and later we can condemn the Croats and Serbians together if you still like.

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_d...enian_Genocide
                    "During the Armenian Genocide which occurred in the Ottoman Empire, led at the time by the Young Turks, the Turkish armed forces, militias, and members of the public engaged in a systematic campaign of genocidal rape against female Armenians and children of both sexes. Before the genocide had begun one method used to intimidate the Armenian population was sexual humiliation.[a] Women and young girls were not only subjected to rape, but also forced marriage, torture, forced prostitution, being sold into slavery and sexual mutilation.[2][3]

                    https://mightynose.wordpress.com/201...ule-in-balkan/
                    Last edited by Suna123; 12-08-2017, 06:50 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
                      how cruel is that. But what you try to hide is the rape done by Turkish soldiers in wartimes and the rape done by the Ottomans on the Balkans. Maybe they learned from your own ancestors how to humiliate your enemy most efficiently? Lets talk about this and later we can condemn the Croats and Serbians together if you still like.
                      Rape and humiliation are not just something "historical" it would seem...

                      Take a look at what has been happening after the coup attempt in Turkey:

                      http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/26/eu...ath/index.html

                      And even before and during...

                      https://clarionproject.org/turkey-sy...cal-prisoners/

                      Following the failed July 15th coup d’état in Turkey, the world witnessed how thousands of Turks dealt with their own Turkish soldiers who put down their arms and surrendered. Pro-government Turks beat, tortured and lynched their own soldiers in the streets – before the eyes of the entire world. But torturing is nothing new in Turkey. It is an old political tradition. Kurdish political prisoners have for decades been exposed to appalling sexual and physical torture in Turkish jails and police stations.
                      The day before the coup, human rights organizations in Turkey announced in a press conference that many Kurds who have been recently arrested and jailed in the city of Sanliurfa, or Urfa, have been tortured and raped while in detention.
                      https://www.theguardian.com/global-d...exual-violence

                      Turkey: a history of sexual violence

                      The rape and torture of Kurdish prisoners in Turkey are disturbingly commonplace. "I was blindfolded, stripped naked, beaten...and they tried to put sticks up my anus. I fainted," stated 37-year-old mother of three, Hamdiye Aslan.
                      Hamdiye Aslan's alleged perpetrators were five police officers. According to a report from Amnesty International in 2003, she had been detained in Mardin Prison, south-east Turkey, for almost three months in which she was reportedly blindfolded, anally raped with a truncheon, threatened and mocked by officers.
                      Horrific and shocking as it may sound, activists state that Hamdiye's case is one of many.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by grgur View Post
                        Yeeah, he's around to whine about germans and dutch being racist while spineless turks rape their own women as well as syrian immigrants
                        Do not try to change subject like a miserable aussie or a german Nazi topic is not about Erdogan, it was not Erdogan who did those rapes and murders in Bosnia. Anyone who attempts to do it is simply a shameless liar.

                        Bosnian War came to an end when NATO whipped asses of serbians and croats, not when croats intervened. They were a part of the problem.

                        Originally posted by grgur View Post
                        lol, "rapist", dude has more diplomas than you have brain cells(hint it's 3) but anyway that's how law works and you're not making a point
                        Maybe he had (past tense) more diplomas than a lying refugees like you, but not more than my diplomas.

                        Originally posted by grgur View Post
                        If you think he was trying not to die than you're a moron, since he clearly poisoned himself, and said I just drank poison.
                        Everything is expected from a lying croat who was convicted of war crimes in Bosnian War. He might have lied just like he lied that he wasnt a war criminal His words dont mean anything about reality. His grave must be checked if he's buried or not. After all, croatia handed him over to court to enter eu.


                        I see you are trying to divert subject in most parts and still no answer...

                        Is he (a coward murderous croat) considered a ''hero'' by croats or not ?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                          Do not try to change subject like a miserable aussie or a german Nazi topic is not about Erdogan, it was not Erdogan who did those rapes and murders in Bosnia. Anyone who attempts to do it is simply a shameless liar.

                          Bosnian War came to an end when NATO whipped asses of serbians and croats, not when croats intervened. They were a part of the problem.
                          soooo, you'll just ignore historic truth to fit your dumb narrative- how am I not surprised

                          Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                          Maybe he had (past tense) more diplomas than a lying refugees like you, but not more than my diplomas.
                          I never needed to lie, it's 'refugees' from muslim countries that like to claim they're 16 at the age of 40

                          Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                          Everything is expected from a lying croat who was convicted of war crimes in Bosnian War. He might have lied just like he lied that he wasnt a war criminal His words dont mean anything about reality. His grave must be checked if he's buried or not. After all, croatia handed him over to court to enter eu.
                          Sure everything is to be expected, if you're a braindead moron, but that's up to you


                          Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                          I see you are trying to divert subject in most parts and still no answer...

                          Is he (a coward murderous croat) considered a ''hero'' by croats or not ?
                          How's that the subject- the subject is you not being to able to prove a single part of your rethotoric to be correct
                          Last edited by grgur; 12-11-2017, 06:31 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                            Do not try to change subject like a miserable aussie or a german Nazi
                            Boy Bosphorus is butthurt there... nothing new to note....

                            Originally posted by BosphorusTaurus View Post
                            topic is not about Erdogan, it was not Erdogan who did those rapes and murders in Bosnia. Anyone who attempts to do it is simply a shameless liar.
                            The problems in the Balkans are The Ottoman Empire's legacy to the world - namely rape, murder and slavery not to mention the engineered ethnic populations that inflict the Balkans and are a huge contributing factor to the conflicts there. Then Erdogan has the nerve to even talk about conflicts such as the Bosnian war.

                            Erdogan is definitely doing more than his share of whining like a little boy about the Bosnian War, yet "for whatever reason" can't clean up after Turkey shitting in its own nest with crimes ranging from genocide of Armenians, murder of Cypriots or the rape, murder and torture of Kurds

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by grgur View Post
                              How's that the subject- the subject is you not being to able to prove a single part of your rethotoric to be correct
                              Why running away from a question like a typical serbo-croat all the time? I'll ask it to idiot again who wants to evade question intentionally (consider statements of croat politicians about his death at the same time)

                              Is he (a coward murderous croat) considered a ''hero'' by croats or not ?

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