Italy closes ports for so called "rescue vessels"

[Hades91]

Those "rescue vessels" which cooperate with human traffickers brake here the sea law, because they ship those "rescued" across the sea into Europe, instead bring them to closest port in Africa for fastest medical treatment.
Now Italy shuts ports for those "rescue vessel" which bring thousands of unwanted illegal immigrant from Africa who only exploit European humanity and generosity of European social systems

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-e...-idUSKBN1J60UY

I can imagine that NGOs like Soros foundation and EU that want to fill with human filth European countries for the sake of ethnic civil wars, are deeply concerned about the step of Italian government. Because closing the boarders and ports for illegal immigrants will reduce the desire to reach EU for billions in Africa and the business model will dry out for human traffickers, those "rescue vessels" and western social industry that demands billions of taxes for "refugee" accommodation.

[jordan_rudess]

Yes, I've heard they have some new Prime Minister. But he's still leftist so I don't suppose much will change.

[Hades91]

Yes, I've heard they have some new Prime Minister. But he's still leftist so I don't suppose much will change.

We will see.
Best case scenario is if those 600 "illegals" start a mutiny on this ship.
However, I think some EU state like Greek or Spain will allow disembarking of such a great load of engineers, doctors and scientists.

[Hades91]

> b-but those are good people.

They paid 3500 USD per head to reach EU, imagine what happens if Aquarius will be forced to bring those "rescued" back to Libya. I think it will be difficult without assault team on board and military escort.

[jordan_rudess]

Their PM already said that he will demand relocation of "refugees" across EU. Not much wind of change imo
But yes, we will see

[aussieinbg]

> b-but those are good people.

They paid 3500 USD per head to reach EU, imagine what happens if Aquarius will be forced to bring those "rescued" back to Libya. I think it will be difficult without assault team on board and military escort.

I think that off-shore processing centres of the type Australia has had for a very long time are something of urgency for the EU right now.

[aussieinbg]

We will see.
Best case scenario is if those 600 "illegals" start a mutiny on this ship.
However, I think some EU state like Greek or Spain will allow disembarking of such a great load of engineers, doctors and scientists.

Breaking news: Spain is going to accept this human cargo of brain surgeons and Mensa society candidates.

I'm wondering if the Spanish judicial system is going to process the usual assortment of murderers we see during such sinkings where Christians, then women and girls get thrown in the water before the Muslim men and boys.

[Hades91]

Aquarius is still crossing with 2kn between Sicily and Malta, it seems passengers or the rescued ones don't accept Spain as their destination.
It's very likely that those illegals paid, so they demand an Italian port.
Sea emergency?
Somehow I have the feel, that those NGO sponsored vessels are just human traffickers, nothing else.

[aussieinbg]

Aquarius is still crossing with 2kn between Sicily and Malta, it seems passengers or the rescued ones don't accept Spain as their destination.
It's very likely that those illegals paid, so they demand an Italian port.
Sea emergency?
Somehow I have the feel, that those NGO sponsored vessels are just human traffickers, nothing else.

I've just checked... "Aquarius" is still sitting between Sicily and Malta. I also did a bit of checking of the relative social benefits of Italy and Spain. Italy is a financially more lucrative destination. Of course they want a better return on the $3500 "investment".

[aussieinbg]

Apparently, the ship can't move "because of bad weather". Anyway, while the people on-board push hard to "get let off in Italy rather than Spain because it is oh so terrible being left at sea", let's take a look at the demographics of these "refugees".

"For whatever reason", we keep getting the stats that out of 629 people on board "11 are children, 123 are unaccompanied minors and 7 are pregnant women" - but we don't get a demographic breakdown of men and women.

Now, 11 children equates to less than 2% of the whole number of people on board. As for the 123 "unaccompanied minors", when is Europe going to start doing dental x-rays and x-rays of wrist bones to actually verify these claims - which usually often as not turn out to be complete bullshit. Also, "for whatever reason", we don't get a breakdown of the numbers of "boys" and "girls" among these "unaccompanied minors".

Now, the numbers of pregnant women can give us a handle on how many women are on board this ship. Apparently, something like 11% of women that make it to Europe as "refugees" are pregnant:

https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/...urope-pregnant

Apart from the fact that so many of the women who turn up to Europe come getting ready to give birth - another very interesting discussion in itself - that there are "7 pregnant women" equating to only about 15% of the declared adults on-board being women.

Let's cut through the bullshit. These people are not genuine refugees. These are economic migrants. Where are the roughly equal numbers of men and women and proportionately high numbers of children we see with genuine groups of refugees????

[Hades91]

Apparently, the ship can't move "because of bad weather". Anyway, while the people on-board push hard to "get let off in Italy rather than Spain because it is oh so terrible being left at sea", let's take a look at the demographics of these "refugees".

That must be a terrible local limited storm, then all other ships around drive with standard cruise speed.

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"For whatever reason", we keep getting the stats that out of 629 people on board "11 are children, 123 are unaccompanied minors and 7 are pregnant women" - but we don't get a demographic breakdown of men and women.

Now, 11 children equates to less than 2% of the whole number of people on board. As for the 123 "unaccompanied minors", when is Europe going to start doing dental x-rays and x-rays of wrist bones to actually verify these claims - which usually often as not turn out to be complete bullshit. Also, "for whatever reason", we don't get a breakdown of the numbers of "boys" and "girls" among these "unaccompanied minors".

Now, the numbers of pregnant women can give us a handle on how many women are on board this ship. Apparently, something like 11% of women that make it to Europe as "refugees" are pregnant:

https://www.newsdeeply.com/refugees/...urope-pregnant

Apart from the fact that so many of the women who turn up to Europe come getting ready to give birth - another very interesting discussion in itself - that there are "7 pregnant women" equating to only about 15% of the declared adults on-board being women.

Let's cut through the bullshit. These people are not genuine refugees. These are economic migrants. Where are the roughly equal numbers of men and women and proportionately high numbers of children we see with genuine groups of refugees????

"These people are not genuine refugees. These are economic migrants."

Of course they aren't they just want exploit their host countries. Most of them know they will be deported after some time, but they know their expenses to the smugglers will be compensated after few months with a surplus in EU states with financial welfare. Spain seems to be not one of those "holy lands"

[aussieinbg]

That must be a terrible local limited storm, then all other ships around drive with standard cruise speed.

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I've just taken a look at a weather map for the Mediterranean Sea today. Winds about 15 knots, waves are up to 1 or 1.5m rather like yesterday when I'd checked. These are pretty calm conditions - and very much what these "refugees" were sailing through on their much less substantial boats on the way to the promised land of Italy.

Now, why isn't anyone in the media pointing out these things - this took me 30 seconds with Google.

"These people are not genuine refugees. These are economic migrants."

Of course they aren't they just want exploit their host countries. Most of them know they will be deported after some time, but they know their expenses to the smugglers will be compensated after few months with a surplus in EU states with financial welfare. Spain seems to be not one of those "holy lands"

I've been looking at maps of Africa looking at potential places where they could put migration processing centres. Namibia might be an interesting country. Politically stable, could use some help with its economy and boosting GDP, good remove areas for security and also in about the same time zone as much of Europe.

[Hades91]

Of course babbling about weather is a lie. They just try to force Italy to allow disembarking of their passengers, no matter how, even if they would be forced to set that ship in fire.



max wind at 10m is 20kt, 38km/h not more than a breeze on sea

[aussieinbg]

The Aquarius is an "Research/Survey vessel".

https://www.marinetraffic.com/en/ais...essel:AQUARIUS

and previously a coastguard vessel in the German navy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquarius_(NGO_ship)

These things are specifically designed to handle extremely rough seas and even get through hurricanes. That it can't handle 15-knot winds or 1.5m swells - even a canoe can!!!! Total bullshit.

No wonder people are getting pissed off.

They are handing over these "refugees" to the Italian navy to transport to Spain... my bet is that the NGO with the Aquarius wants to stay in the region "to rescue more refugees". Given the very easy weather conditions, I bet more "refugee boats" will be making their way to Italy soon.... This is what the bullshit from them regarding "rough weather" is all about.

[Tux1]

Their PM already said that he will demand relocation of "refugees" across EU. Not much wind of change imo
But yes, we will see

Correct. Also, the Naples mayor vowed he would allow 'refugees' in. The Italians are cucks just as much as any other European nation. All these nations are indoctrinated and brainwashed and it is 'multi-layered' from the politicians to the populace. There's only a small fraction that are enlightened or against this agenda and B.S. If the new Italian 'populist' (this word is thrown about by the media towards any government or faction they pretend they don't like or that they treat as an 'opposition') government would be refusing to 'do anything' if they really were genuine. Not trying to 'find solutions' like sending them to Malta or Spain or anywhere other than their point of origin.