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  • #16
    Originally posted by KrefeldFTW View Post

    The reason we have our freedoms is the picture that was spread through the enligthment bye people like Immanuel Kant and Voltaire who put the individual before the group.
    The enlightenment only happened because Christianity allowed for it. The founders of the enlightenment were all Christians. Notice how there is no enlightenment in muslim countries?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by briancrouse View Post
      The enlightenment only happened because Christianity allowed for it. The founders of the enlightenment were all Christians. Notice how there is no enlightenment in muslim countries?
      roflmao - they were as Christian as Galileo was....not at all. They were threatened with death by the church for their ideas. Yes, you can say it happened because Christianity is weaker in oppression of rational thinking than Islam is.
      Last edited by Suna123; 07-12-2018, 03:12 PM.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Suna123 View Post

        roflmao - they were as Christian as Galileo was....not at all. They were threatened with death by the church for their ideas. Yes, you can say it happened because Christianity is weaker in oppression of rational thinking than Islam is.
        The bible said the earth was round before the Catholic church said it was flat. Galileo was indeed a christian. Whereas the church at that time were definitely not acting christian. Galililo said "God is known by nature in his works, and by doctrine in his revealed word." I dont know where your getting he was not a christian. Your confusing the catholic church with true Christianity. The enlightenment didnt happen because of atheists as you seam to want to imagine. The enlightenment happened centuries ago, long before the western world became godless. People of the enlightenment remained religious and Christian. Only in an atheists dreamland was the enlightenment about rejection of God

        If you want to be enlightened Suna, here is a good article for you to set you straight.

        https://www.christianitytoday.com/hi...o-galilei.html
        Last edited by briancrouse; 07-12-2018, 03:27 PM.

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        • #19
          Only super powers from god peewee could turn a thread in the Politics Forum into a christian recruitment drive Run along with your nonsense to the religion forum before a moderator catches you proselytizing here

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Elishar View Post
            Break it down Aussie,,,Don't let the "heat of the moment" fire the wrong cylinders, the sultan mohammet (Mehmet in Turkish ) made his first European conquest, Greece, by using a cannon invented and pioneered in Europe so "European technology " was first used Against Europe but the inherant corruption and subsequent lack of cohesion so common in islam doomed mekmets best efforts..
            For sure the Ottomans had pieces of technology from others such as Chinese gunpowder, European cannon designs and so on.

            One technical invention that gave the edge ultimately to "Europe" which the Ottomans didn't embrace until the 19th century was printing, not to mention all the other advances such as in shipping and so on which gave a huge advantage to Ottoman opponents. At this point, even Janissary recruitment and general breeding up of armies could not overcome such advantages. The effect was particularly pronounced in the 19th century when the Ottomans went into their death spiral.

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            • #21
              Here's Harun Yahya defending Erdogan very recently...

              https://harunyahya.com/en/Excerpts-f...-will-continue

              Yet Erdogan goes and arrests him 2 days after becoming president!!!

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