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  • #76
    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post

    Don't worry, President Maduro has sold large bunch of Golds during the visit which made Venezuelan economy a bit more stable.
    Turkiye has bought tens of tonnes of golds from Venezuela since late 2018, which makes Turkish Lira currency stronger and makes Venezuelan economy more stable. I'm one strong supporter of opening a Turkish military base in Venezuela in cooperation with China and Russia as of common benefits, maybe also Iran if they want
    Countries like Venezuela, Paraguay, Mexico and Cuba will soon be the strongest countries of American continent thanks to Turkish investments of technology.
    So, you've got Turkey trying for a military base Venezuela while, back in a country much closer to Turkey your "brother Turks" in Xinjiang, China are getting locked up by the million in Chinese concentration camps.

    I've already been talking about this a long time ago - 5 months ago in fact:

    http://forum.interpals.net/forum/int...ts#post3066296

    "Mysteriously", all the loud mouth Turkish fanboys had been up to now silent on that thread

    "For whatever reason" and after up to 2 million "brother Turks" have been languishing away - and in some cases dying - in Chinese concentration camps, the Turkish government suddenly decides to get active about it....

    https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/10/a...ntl/index.html

    Very strange set of priorities from Erdogan's dogpack - on the one hand pursuing militarist adventures far from home in South America and on the other ignoring the plight of brother Turks much closer to home in East Turkmenistan

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    • #77
      The Russian word docmaeamb means the connections necessary for almost anything, we didn't have a word for this so we came up with protektsia.
      I hope Maduro didn't take a cheque for the gold...

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      • #78
        Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post

        Don't worry, President Maduro has sold large bunch of Golds during the visit which made Venezuelan economy a bit more stable.
        Turkiye has bought tens of tonnes of golds from Venezuela since late 2018, which makes Turkish Lira currency stronger and makes Venezuelan economy more stable. I'm one strong supporter of opening a Turkish military base in Venezuela in cooperation with China and Russia as of common benefits, maybe also Iran if they want
        Countries like Venezuela, Paraguay, Mexico and Cuba will soon be the strongest countries of American continent thanks to Turkish investments of technology.
        The purchase of Venezuelan "golds" is prolonging the dictator in power by buying his blood soaked gold gold which is mined by desparate men trying to feed their families..The gold is being bought "under the counter" and flown to turkey where it helps the turkey dictator hold on to power....
        Forget military bases,technology and all that hoo haa,for the moment turkey is paying Venezuela with pasta and milk powder which is being distributed by the Venezuelan govt to stave off revolution , while in turkey it means that using gold Erdogan can temporarily sidestep the banking system and keep turkeys head above the water..

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Elishar View Post
          The Russian word docmaeamb means the connections necessary for almost anything, we didn't have a word for this so we came up with protektsia.
          I hope Maduro didn't take a cheque for the gold...
          Seems that Turkish Airlines is getting profits from somewhere with empty aircraft from Caracas to Istanbul

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          • #80
            Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

            So, you've got Turkey trying for a military base Venezuela while, back in a country much closer to Turkey your "brother Turks" in Xinjiang, China are getting locked up by the million in Chinese concentration camps.

            I've already been talking about this a long time ago - 5 months ago in fact:

            http://forum.interpals.net/forum/int...ts#post3066296

            "Mysteriously", all the loud mouth Turkish fanboys had been up to now silent on that thread

            "For whatever reason" and after up to 2 million "brother Turks" have been languishing away - and in some cases dying - in Chinese concentration camps, the Turkish government suddenly decides to get active about it....

            https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/10/a...ntl/index.html

            Very strange set of priorities from Erdogan's dogpack - on the one hand pursuing militarist adventures far from home in South America and on the other ignoring the plight of brother Turks much closer to home in East Turkmenistan
            Small previews from small brain, you better leave politic subjects by themselves, they'll go even better than you do for them Turkic situation in China is just not different than Chechen situation in Russia.
            Chechens cooperate with Russians and Chechens fight against Russians, Turkic cooperate with Chinese and Turkic fight against Chinese. But there is only one in your small brain, "fighthing", because you think everybody is brainless as you.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post

              Small previews from small brain, you better leave politic subjects by themselves, they'll go even better than you do for them Turkic situation in China is just not different than Chechen situation in Russia.
              Chechens cooperate with Russians and Chechens fight against Russians, Turkic cooperate with Chinese and Turkic fight against Chinese. But there is only one in your small brain, "fighthing", because you think everybody is brainless as you.
              Took you a long time to come up with that pathetic attempt at apologist bullshit now, didn't it?

              While the Chechens are generally Muslim. they are not your "brother Turks" which your government makes such a big thing about...

              The Uigars are both Muslim and your "brother Turks", there are millions of them being thrown into concentration camps in China and the Chinese are conquering Turkish territory by settling Han Chinese there and driving Uigars out...

              You whine about the Kurds - but the Chinese are doing exactly the same thing that the Kurds are doing to Turks in Turkey - and you are completely silent

              What's the problem here? That Turkey has thrown more journalists in prison than even China? That Erdogan needs to get ass-raped to ensure future financing from China?

              Meanwhile, all this is going on and what is Turkey thinking about? Putting a military base in Venezuela - somewhere completely not in Turkey's political or strategic interest. No wonder Turkey is going bankrupt with thinking like this!!!!

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              • #82
                Originally posted by dmitri11 View Post
                I never licked Putin's ass. I don't see hungry Venezuelans here, I only see hungry dogs of American imperialism.
                https://www.interpals.net/country/VE
                Perhaps the Venezuelans come here to jerk off hunger.
                You don't see hungry Venezuelans? well i do everyday. I live here and people eating straight outta the garbage is common as fuck. I know that America is acting by it's own interest but anyways they are helping us a lot, Russia only wants to keep allies and Moscow doesn't care if we all starve. This isn't left vs right, this is good vs wrong and Russia is literal devil from my point of view.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                  I left the question as an open one...

                  It's rather moronic to merely say "it's socialism/communism that caused Venezuela's problems because Venezuela had socialism/communism".

                  So what was it about Chavez/ Maduro and enacting their policies which caused the problems in Venezuela in the first place?

                  Hint: One poster already has given a concrete example of actions by Chavez which were totally braindead in an economic manner and which had substantially contributed to the debt that Venezuela has massive problems with paying back.

                  You might care to respond to that poster and tell us why it was such a braindead thing to do... As a bonus, you might even relate them back to communism/socialism - which you seem quite interested in.
                  Problems in Venezuela started when social democracy toke power back in 1956. As you can see, social democracy is the beginning for more authoritarian goverments like full socialism. The economy started to downfall when Perez Jimenez got kicked out (at this tim the bolivar had more power than the $, thanks capitalism). Chavez destroyed the country giving the army too much political and economic power and therefore enabled corruption to be rampant, also he was retarded with numbers spendibg way too much in social programs that in the end most of the capital went in the pocket of corrupted generals (ls via del tren de Maracay, el nuevo puente del Orinoco, etc), also Chavez promoted NK type of brainwashing in the military schools like a good marxist does. When oil prices went down the debts skyrocketed and then he died and Maduro took all the responsability an agravated more the situation because he is even worse than Chavez.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                    Took you a long time to come up with that pathetic attempt at apologist bullshit now, didn't it?

                    While the Chechens are generally Muslim. they are not your "brother Turks" which your government makes such a big thing about...

                    The Uigars are both Muslim and your "brother Turks", there are millions of them being thrown into concentration camps in China and the Chinese are conquering Turkish territory by settling Han Chinese there and driving Uigars out...

                    You whine about the Kurds - but the Chinese are doing exactly the same thing that the Kurds are doing to Turks in Turkey - and you are completely silent

                    What's the problem here? That Turkey has thrown more journalists in prison than even China? That Erdogan needs to get ass-raped to ensure future financing from China?

                    Meanwhile, all this is going on and what is Turkey thinking about? Putting a military base in Venezuela - somewhere completely not in Turkey's political or strategic interest. No wonder Turkey is going bankrupt with thinking like this!!!!

                    Turkic or not, the sense is same, first is benefits of Turkiye, Muslim world and Turkic world and Muslim world must be in peace with China to hunt imperialists like ducks which we'll be doing you can be sure. China will be doing the same thing to cooperate with Muslim world, Russia is same, otherwise they'll be infight against Chechens.
                    Turkiye also know how to arm the Turks at Eastern Turkistan, just doesn't want to make it for its national benefits, otherwise you could see Uyghuristan would just be like Syria. But we DONT want them to be in a civil-war before Chinese invasion of USA and Australia, the priority is for the great satan and its sperms
                    There is no any other nation that's supplied Kurds with food more than Turks, Turkiye opened gates for Kurds in 1990s during Halapca massacre as well Mesoud Barzani's father has told his son "Don't trust anyone except Turks, they'll think the best one for us"
                    Last edited by CaymanWolvon; 02-13-2019, 03:39 PM.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                      Turkic or not, the sense is same, first is benefits of Turkiye, Muslim world and Turkic world and Muslim world must be in peace with China to hunt imperialists like ducks which we'll be doing you can be sure. China will be doing the same thing to cooperate with Muslim world, Russia is same, otherwise they'll be infight against Chechens.
                      The Chinese will do a few token things like not show so many pig images in broadcasts for the Chinese New Year. Meanwhile, while celebrating the Chinese New Year, they will force feed millions of Uighar Muslims pork and alcohol precisely to celebrate the Chinese New Year.

                      I suspect that the Chinese are much better at the "outward harmony" game than even Islamists...

                      Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                      Turkiye also know how to arm the Turks at Eastern Turkistan, just doesn't want to make it for its national benefits, otherwise you could see Uyghuristan would just be like Syria. But we want them to be in a civil-war before Chinese invasion of USA and Australia, the priority is for the great satan and its sperms
                      China will merely put every single "non compliant" Uighar who doesn't want to become a Han Chinese into a concentration camp. Assad in Syria only threw 10 000s into prison. They've already got "facilities" ready for 2 million Uighars. The Chinese have experience with building Gulag systems with 10s of millions of inmates. They could easily build a Gulag system to accommodate the remainder of the 11 to 15 million Uighar population. Building concentration camp facilities for the rest of the UIghars is also a perfect stop-gap measure to help keep the Chinese economy growing at a rapid rate. Somehow I don't think that there will be any real civil war in China's east...

                      Now here's where Turkey's inability to be honest about their past will come back to bite - if Turkey finally gets - what is actually in the self-interest of Turks - the balls to actually criticise the Chinese for murdering millions of Uighars in a civil-war situation where the whole Uighar population is locked up in concentration camps, all Chinese diplomats have to respond with is an honest "so what, you murdered 1 1/2 million Armenians during WW1 - stop lecturing us hypocrites!!!!".

                      The Chinese will move east into central Asian Turkic Republics - much easier, cheaper and technologically much less challenging than trying to cross the Pacific Ocean to invade other countries. A heavy railway into Central Asia is so much cheaper and with less technical challenges than a single aircraft carrier, much less a whole fleet of them. Besides, aircraft carriers burn up money, the heavy railway used to invade can also be used for trade and make money.

                      Meanwhile, the strategic genius of Erdogan is about putting a military base in Venezuela....

                      Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
                      There is no any other nation that's supplied Kurds with food more than Turks, Turkiye opened gates for Kurds in 1990s during Halapca massacre as well Mesoud Barzani's father has told his son "Don't trust anyone except Turks, they'll think the best one for us"
                      Yea, right. And Kurds absolutely loved the destruction and being forced out of 10000s of villages :rolleyes" Really smart. Now Istanbul and other Turkish cities have huge Kurdish populations made up precisely of these Kurdish villagers who are reproducing at a much faster rate than the "native" Turkish population. Also, it was a perfect recruiting opportunity for the PKK....

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                      • #86
                        > EU wants a new election but EU is bunch of cucks and faggots
                        > US wants an intervention, because Venezuelan oil is "rightful" ExxonMobil claim after forced oil company re-nationalization due commie regime.
                        > Muardo blocks international humanitarian help, because he is afraid that weapons and hostile to him military personal will reach Venezuela over this way.
                        > Putin "secured" Venezuelan gold and builds likely a dissident villa for Muardo.
                        > Brazil and Colombia wants a part of the cake after the regime change and has already relocated military units to border of Venezuela.
                        > Venezuelan pleb is divided but pissed beyond good and evil about Muardo's incompetency

                        What will happens as next?

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                          The Chinese will do a few token things like not show so many pig images in broadcasts for the Chinese New Year. Meanwhile, while celebrating the Chinese New Year, they will force feed millions of Uighar Muslims pork and alcohol precisely to celebrate the Chinese New Year.

                          I suspect that the Chinese are much better at the "outward harmony" game than even Islamists...



                          China will merely put every single "non compliant" Uighar who doesn't want to become a Han Chinese into a concentration camp. Assad in Syria only threw 10 000s into prison. They've already got "facilities" ready for 2 million Uighars. The Chinese have experience with building Gulag systems with 10s of millions of inmates. They could easily build a Gulag system to accommodate the remainder of the 11 to 15 million Uighar population. Building concentration camp facilities for the rest of the UIghars is also a perfect stop-gap measure to help keep the Chinese economy growing at a rapid rate. Somehow I don't think that there will be any real civil war in China's east...

                          Now here's where Turkey's inability to be honest about their past will come back to bite - if Turkey finally gets - what is actually in the self-interest of Turks - the balls to actually criticise the Chinese for murdering millions of Uighars in a civil-war situation where the whole Uighar population is locked up in concentration camps, all Chinese diplomats have to respond with is an honest "so what, you murdered 1 1/2 million Armenians during WW1 - stop lecturing us hypocrites!!!!".

                          The Chinese will move east into central Asian Turkic Republics - much easier, cheaper and technologically much less challenging than trying to cross the Pacific Ocean to invade other countries. A heavy railway into Central Asia is so much cheaper and with less technical challenges than a single aircraft carrier, much less a whole fleet of them. Besides, aircraft carriers burn up money, the heavy railway used to invade can also be used for trade and make money.

                          Meanwhile, the strategic genius of Erdogan is about putting a military base in Venezuela....



                          Yea, right. And Kurds absolutely loved the destruction and being forced out of 10000s of villages :rolleyes" Really smart. Now Istanbul and other Turkish cities have huge Kurdish populations made up precisely of these Kurdish villagers who are reproducing at a much faster rate than the "native" Turkish population. Also, it was a perfect recruiting opportunity for the PKK....

                          imperialist media which is anti-communist and full-day work to discriminate leftists effects you so badly

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by victorinthomint View Post
                            You don't see hungry Venezuelans? well i do everyday. I live here and people eating straight outta the garbage is common as fuck. I know that America is acting by it's own interest but anyways they are helping us a lot ...
                            How's the USA working out for you?

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                            • #89
                              [QUOTE=dmitri11;n3084773]
                              How's the USA working out for you?[/QUOT
                              Supporting Guaidó and trying to get humanitarian help, also, they put a medic boat in Colombia to help the colombian hospitals when they got a swarm of venezuelans. In a nutshell USA is really helping us restoring our democracy and i'm sure when this socialism nightmare ends (soon) our countries will be great allies

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by victorinthomint View Post
                                Problems in Venezuela started when social democracy toke power back in 1956. As you can see, social democracy is the beginning for more authoritarian goverments like full socialism. The economy started to downfall when Perez Jimenez got kicked out (at this tim the bolivar had more power than the $, thanks capitalism). Chavez destroyed the country giving the army too much political and economic power and therefore enabled corruption to be rampant, also he was retarded with numbers spendibg way too much in social programs that in the end most of the capital went in the pocket of corrupted generals (ls via del tren de Maracay, el nuevo puente del Orinoco, etc), also Chavez promoted NK type of brainwashing in the military schools like a good marxist does. When oil prices went down the debts skyrocketed and then he died and Maduro took all the responsability an agravated more the situation because he is even worse than Chavez.
                                For sure the US have pulled some very bad crap in South America and Venezuela with things such as the Munro doctrine. However, on the scale of things, they were not so bad compared to what had come later on.

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