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  • aussieinbg
    started a topic Mosque Attacks in New Zealand

    Mosque Attacks in New Zealand

    Seems a gunman has gone out with an automatic weapon and shot up two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-...ities/10904306

    So, what motivated him to attack these mosques?

    Are they revenge attacks for previous Islamic attacks around the world?

    Will Islamists launch revenge attacks in retaliation - as they usually do with such things?

  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by genocidocles View Post

    I think you mean that poor rifle that was taken in as evidence and will likely sadly be destroyed after.
    The kook who mass-murdered in the mosques in New Zealand, Brenton Terrant, no longer needs the physical gun to assure him of "immortality".

    Actions such as trying to censor his "manifesto" and the live video of the murders that he made ensured that the Streisand Effect kicked in and that these two things were suddenly hot property on internet. So instead of a morbidly curious few people downloading the shooting video or a few people trying to analyse the gunman by downloading his "manifesto", you now have people in their 100s of millions viewing both the shootings and the "manifesto".

    Of course, Erdogan continuing to play the video at his election rallies doesn't really help here...

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  • genocidocles
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    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post
    The real victims of that mosque shooting are those who are rational like Sam Harris.
    I think you mean that poor rifle that was taken in as evidence and will likely sadly be destroyed after.

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  • aussieinbg
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    Sam Harris has a very rational take:





    We already see Islamofascists using this massacre for their own political aims - such as Erdogan. Now, where are all these Islam fanboys and useful idiots properly criticising someone like Erdogan using such a massacre for highly cynical political purposes? I guess that they are too busy bleating like the useful idiot sheep in Orwell's "Animal Farm" "Islaaaaaamophiba" - which makes sense because the made up word "Islamophobia" has the word "lamb" sounded in it

    The real victims of that mosque shooting are those who are rational like Sam Harris.

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  • aussieinbg
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    This is a really black comedy....

    A loner fringe kook goes off and shoots up a couple of mosques with assault rifles which should have been banned in New Zealand more than 20 years ago if they had heeded the lessons across the Tasman from the 1996 Port Arthur massacre in Tasmania. He streams the attack live to a fringe extreme right forum consisting at most 100 or 200 people reading it,

    The first mosque this kook attacked has something of a long history of radical Islamist preaching and "radicalisation" - very evident for anyone who knows the first thing about Islam or had spent more than 1 or 2 minutes doing their homework in a search engine.

    He murders a huge number of people - yes, really horrific stuff. This is a number typical for a weekly or even daily death toll from Islam-inspired terrorism around the world over about the last 15 years. Horrible, isn't it?

    So, what happens?

    Firstly, out comes the whine about the live stream and "manifesto" and the knee-jerk reaction to ban it. And guess what? It became the hottest thing on the whole of internet to view this video and to link it to your profile on Facebook or whatever - 1.5+ million people have already done so as indicated by how many times it was banned by Facebook. Many millions more have linked his "manifesto". The morons making the decisions about banning such things need the term "Streisand Effect" burnt into their brains.

    Perhaps there are those on the right or far right in The Netherlands thinking of sending a bouquet of flowers to Jacinda Ardern as a token of appreciation for her government's mishandling the whole shooter affair and the resultant flow-on effects of an Islamist terrorist attack in Utrecht and their subsequent improved electoral performance.....

    The only one I've seen so far who has shown any brains, leadership and even courage in this instance was Angela Merkel. In spite of being named in the gunman's "manifesto" as an assassination target, she has kept her mouth shut and didn't feed the troll. Merkel kept things at their real level - that of a long winded rant by a loner kook; the content of which didn't deserve to be responded to by someone in a leadership position.

    The police involvement is Keystone Cops inept. Firstly, they can't even get the body count right. In spite of so many police swarming both shooting sites, they miss a body "at the back of the mosque"!!!!!! Hence the body count went from 49 to 50 after a couple of days, I can imagine the conspiracy theories that are going to crop up in future after that one...

    Then they charge Brentan Tarrant with a murder of one victim so that they can hold him in custody in prison - and they can't even get that one right!!!!! They get the name of the victim wrong. This of course leads to questions as to why the judge really withholds the name of the initial victim of the shootings. My bet is that this one was an illegal immigrant living under an assumed name and hence the problems with getting the name right....

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-47649833

    Jacinda Ardern does the right thing of course as a leader by personally going and meeting with relatives of the deceased. This is normal and expected of a leader of a nation which as experienced a mass death tragedy. However, the crap about wearing hijab "in sympathy" - she's just been validating everything that kook gunmen has said about "Islam taking over"

    Also, we see Ardern gives the knee-jerk reaction of banning all automatic weapons immediately - after the horse has bolted from the stable. I'm guessing that she is hoping that it distracts from the fact that she has done it 20 something years too late.... The former Australian Prime Minister John Howard when he had gone through that process showed significantly more leadership and brains on this issue - a process of amnesty and compensation for firearms well thought out and implemented over a period of weeks and months - the result of which was a huge number of guns taken out of circulation in Australia and the murder rate in Australia dropping significantly over the years. All Ardern has managed to do is generate a counter knee-jerk reaction among gun owners - to get guns "while they can" and to "hide them from the authorities".

    The poor leadership Ardern has demonstrated means she too should be a "victim" - she should immediately resign as Prime Minister for her massively inept handling of this whole massacre and its aftermath and someone with better leadership skills there should take over.

    It's clearly evident that she is completely out of her depth beyond a few media shots of her "showing empathy towards the victims". Her knee-jerk reactions in censoring the internet merely resulted in the message that this kook gunman wanted out there getting out, she's ultimately in charge of a police investigation that is at best inept, a counter-productive and ultimately ineffective ban on the sorts of weapons which caused the massacre in the first place and she's busy validating what that kook gunman had been saying about "Islam taking over".

    Who are the winners out of all this?

    The kook gunman and his far right "comrades" - they've been validated as a result of the sheer failings of a bunch of people who should have presented them as they were, a bunch of fringe kooks. In reality, closer to the truth of a criminal-minded extreme right kook shooting up a bunch of criminal-minded Islamist members who were belonging to Salafi gangs plus some innocent bystanders who were pretty much blackmailed and forced to go to mosque. You don't see sympathy getting extended to criminal gangs when they decide to shoot up each other and innocent victims don't get such publicity when criminal gangs go around murdering each others family members.

    The other winner group from all this of course is Islamists - they get a massacre in a mosque (literally hundreds of which they themselves have performed against those of the "wrong" Islamic sect in places like Pakistan, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and so on) by a far right kook gunman and validate that they are also right to have been murdering "crusaders" (even though 90% or so of murders by Islamists are Islamists of the wrong sect - Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are classic textbook cases of this). The win is extended for kook Islamists in that they are presented as completely innocent victims. An Islamofascist leader Erdogan has already salivating to all this and using it for his political purposes...

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    As far as I can see NZ,, like most western countries, compels burial in a closed coffin but to me it looked like the moslems in Christchurch were buried in open coffins which is Islamic.. Has the law been changed ? or did the PM "make a gesture "...
    I hadn't seen the images - but very interesting that you had mentioned about the open coffins.

    Regarding "making gestures" - I wonder when the press will begin to honestly talk about the fact that Al Noor mosque was a mosque where significant radicalisation had occurred. The very slow release of names of victims even days after this shooting is also extremely suspicious for various reasons....

    In fact, the shooter Brentan Tarrant had mentioned in his so-called "manifesto" that he had specifically chosen the mosques he had shot up on account of them being radical mosques...

    Now, by not being honest from the very start, they will give Brentan Tarrant an even bigger win than he could have dreamt of - they end up giving the act far more legitimacy than it would otherwise have had when the truth emerges, and it will, that these mosques were not the "oases of peace" that the media are presently bullshitting about.

    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    Did the mayor of Christchurch get to say something before the cameras ?Is he the same party as Adern ?
    Where was he ?Where IS he ,it's his city...
    Both are from the New Zealand Labour Party.

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    You could tell Scott Morrison that the average Israeli knows that the Australians won the war for Beer Sheva,outside the door of the museum is a Full Sized whaler horse 16. 2 hands incredibly impressive..The Australians attacked with such speed they overran the turkeys before they could destroy the water the Aussies needed for their horses...
    I'd first heard about Beersheva because I'd got to meet one of the Australian light horsemen who took part in the charge there when I was about 10 or 11.

    The massive strategically-significant victories that Australia was an important part of against the Ottoman Empire in 1917-1918 are played down in Australia in part as a sign of respect for Turkey given the mutual respect given from Turkey to the Australians regarding the Gallipoli campaign. That might change soon I think...

    Erdogan is completely destroying the genuine reconciliation enjoyed between Australia and Turkey and personally encouraged by Ataturk himself. The Turkey that Australia now finds itself dealing with is not a modernising country bringing itself into the modern civilised world as an equal - and reconciling itself with its past - but one reverting back to an Islamised shithole.

    Very smart of Erdogan to piss off Australia and its tourists... Australians per capita were the tourists spending the most money in Turkey:

    In 2017, Russians were the top visitors in the number of visitors to Turkey, while Australian tourists spent the highest amount with $1,312 per visitor.
    https://www.dailysabah.com/tourism/2...enders-in-2017

    That's about $50 million worth of discretionary spending - not to mention other inputs into the Turkish economy from hotel stays, what Turkey gains from Australians flying in and out of the country and so on. That would be about 100 or 200 million dollars worth of economic activity that Australian tourists generate in Turkey - something like a billion Turkish Lira worth of activity annually.

    I'd recommend to any Australian reading this to boycott Turkey on account of there being an Islamofascist dictator who is totally counter to Ataturk and his legacy of friendship to Australia. If you spend money in Turkey, most of it will go into the pockets of Erdogan's Islamist cronies. You are merely helping to prop up a dictator there - not really helping the local people.

    If Turkey wants to kill a significant part of their high-end tourism - it's in Erdogan's hands.

    Spend your money elsewhere in countries that are much more genuinely friendly and have similar historical setting and climate to Turkey - Greece, Bulgaria (a lot of it is the same as Turkey by the way - and the food, beer and wine are much better) or even go to Israel and see other Australian history such as where the charge at Beersheva took place in 1917.

    If you book a holiday in Turkey, you might lose it in any case. Most travel insurance doesn't cover things like interrupted holidays due to civil wars and the like. The way Erdogan is going in Turkey presently - and you can see something of the picture by how he has reacted to events in New Zealand - he is trying his hardest to initiate a civil war in Turkey.

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  • Elishar
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    As far as I can see NZ,, like most western countries, compels burial in a closed coffin but to me it looked like the moslems in Christchurch were buried in open coffins which is Islamic.. Has the law been changed ? or did the PM "make a gesture "...
    Did the mayor of Christchurch get to say something before the cameras ?Is he the same party as Adern ?
    Where was he ?Where IS he ,it's his city...

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by DrSchadenfreude View Post
    Looks like dwarf religious gangster dictator rancid turdogan is scraping the bottom of the pigshit barrel with political crybaby delusional nonsense towards Australia and New Zealand to try and get himself re-elected

    No wonder pedo, sulco and baldo the forum clumsy turk Marx brothers are screaming izlumophobia at every opportunity with rabid retarded sulking leader like this as a role model Well done turdogan, you have just made turkey look like an even bigger 3rd world shthole run by a sulking pigsht religious dictator for the whole world to laugh at

    The Australian prime minister has reacted furiously to comments by the turkish president, rancid turdogan, invoking Gallipoli to denounce anti-Islamic sentiment, warning that “all options are on the table” due to the offensive remarks.
    Scott Morrison said Australia will review its travel advisory for turkey, a threat that could see Australians directed not to travel to turkey for Anzac Day commemorations at Gallipoli, attended by thousands every year on 25 April.
    In inflammatory comments on Monday, turdoğan suggested that anyone who comes to turkey with anti-muslim sentiments would be sent back in coffins, “like their grandfathers were” during the Gallipoli campaign.



    turkey's president has sparked a diplomatic fight with New Zealand after portraying the Anzac campaign during the First World War as Islamophobic while seeking to boost his chances in an upcoming election.
    You could tell Scott Morrison that the average Israeli knows that the Australians won the war for Beer Sheva,outside the door of the museum is a Full Sized whaler horse 16. 2 hands incredibly impressive..The Australians attacked with such speed they overran the turkeys before they could destroy the water the Aussies needed for their horses...

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  • DrSchadenfreude
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    Looks like dwarf religious gangster dictator rancid turdogan is scraping the bottom of the pigshit barrel with political crybaby delusional nonsense towards Australia and New Zealand to try and get himself re-elected

    No wonder pedo, sulco and baldo the forum clumsy turk Marx brothers are screaming izlumophobia at every opportunity with rabid retarded sulking leader like this as a role model Well done turdogan, you have just made turkey look like an even bigger 3rd world shthole run by a sulking pigsht religious dictator for the whole world to laugh at

    The Australian prime minister has reacted furiously to comments by the turkish president, rancid turdogan, invoking Gallipoli to denounce anti-Islamic sentiment, warning that “all options are on the table” due to the offensive remarks.
    Scott Morrison said Australia will review its travel advisory for turkey, a threat that could see Australians directed not to travel to turkey for Anzac Day commemorations at Gallipoli, attended by thousands every year on 25 April.
    In inflammatory comments on Monday, turdoğan suggested that anyone who comes to turkey with anti-muslim sentiments would be sent back in coffins, “like their grandfathers were” during the Gallipoli campaign.



    turkey's president has sparked a diplomatic fight with New Zealand after portraying the Anzac campaign during the First World War as Islamophobic while seeking to boost his chances in an upcoming election.

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
    yet not proven with any concrete proof but saved in history as exiles and counter-sided conflicts, instead of that, have been always used to blackmail Turkiye, to prevent the term "merciful Turks(caused by Islam)" and against spread of Islam religion Laughable side of the event is, people-european civilization who are descended from the most brutal people ever existed in history the cannibal crusaders are obsessively talking about it I would just call it as "Islamophobia" and "Turkophobia" instead of screaming for innocents (role) which haven't been proven anyway
    Ah, the usual disjoint rant we see from criminal gang members when confronted with statements about their criminal activity and the denial that follows when they think that the police don't have the evidence to convict them...

    But still, thanks very much for demonstrating yet again why the term "Islamophobia" is total and complete shit. Cult members like you fully demonstrate the dangers of what can happen to you if you join this dysfunctional evil satanic death cult

    Your "brother" BosphorusTaurus fully demonstrated his death-cult-driven fetish for the word exterminate.

    Of course you are proud to use a word like "brother" to refer to fellow Islamists like BosphorusTaurus. Criminal gangs where you are in for life love to use that term "brother" to address their members.... If they want to leave the criminal gang, then they are no longer your "brother" and therefore should be killed - or to use BosphorusTaurus' choice of words, exterminated.

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Suna123 View Post
    As a Muslim women she has to divorce her non-Muslim husband anyway.....says the Quran.
    No problem there if she converts to Islam... firstly she mutters the classic love jihad blackmail question "If you love me then you will convert to Islam". This is one of the first vital things a woman learns to say upon conversion to Islam or growing up in the Islamic cult in the complete Islamic manner when she is confronted with a Nonmuslim male showing romantic interest in her.

    Now, if he unquestionably converts to Islam - all good and fine here. Jacinda will quit politics, stick on a hijab and he gets a new bunch of "brother" friends to hang out in the mosque with. Maori crime gangs use the term "brother" with one another, so he'd be familiar with the idea of how terms like "brother" get used in crime groups and therefore won't be such a shock to him when others at his new mosque start calling him "brother". Still, the 5 times a day headbanging might get a bit tedious after a while....

    Now, if Jacinda's husband/boyfriend/whatever refuses to convert to Islam with words along the lines of "it's good Jacinda that you are showing sympathy with Muslims in the wake of the mosque massacres in Christchurch by wearing a hijab - but it's going too far to convert to this stupid cult", then no problem for Jacinda here.

    You see, Jacinda has very white skin and Muhammad's fetish was also white skin. She will have a queue a mile long outside her home offering marriage proposals. Every male Muslim older than 14 or 15 and with less than the regulation 4 Muslim wives will be offering to marry her. There will be a male somewhere there who will appeal to her....

    I do find it extremely strange that Islamists are whining endlessly about "white supremacists" when in fact Muhammad regarded white skin as the most supreme of all

    In all, Jacinda Ardern would have next to no problems finding an Islamic-inspired husband who would beat her, because after all, as Bukhari's hadiths clearly say - a woman is deficient in intelligence and in general what the Quran and the Sahih Ahadith state about a woman being worth half a man

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  • Hades91x
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    Originally posted by CaymanWolvon View Post
    yet not proven with any concrete proof but saved in history as exiles and counter-sided conflicts, instead of that, have been always used to blackmail Turkiye, to prevent the term "merciful Turks(caused by Islam)" and against spread of Islam religion Laughable side of the event is, people-european civilization who are descended from the most brutal people ever existed in history the cannibal crusaders are obsessively talking about it I would just call it as "Islamophobia" and "Turkophobia" instead of screaming for innocents (role) which haven't been proven anyway
    You should leave your islamic delusion bubble, maybe you will see that not only europeans have a disdain for your satanic sect with the name Islam, but every other culture/religion on this planet.
    Well, the entire world must be islamophobic and 8 billion people outside your Islamic deception bubble must be all wrong. LOL

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  • CaymanWolvon
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    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post
    So, TaurusShit crawls out of his reptilian hole and comes up with this highly hypocritical shit:





    Let us repeat it again for you because you are braindead - He's a pagan, you parroting Islamofascist braindead shrill


    Crawl back into your hole again you hypocritical piece of pigshit and perhaps emerge from it as a human being when you begin to show some honesty about events that make that kook gunman in Christchurch's murders look like a pinprick - such as the murders of up to 1.5 million Armenians, Greeks and Assyrians in Turkey during World War One.

    You love that word extermination don't you? After all, Islam is a death cult and Islamic fanboys like yourself are orgasming with delight about the events in Christchurch.
    yet not proven with any concrete proof but saved in history as exiles and counter-sided conflicts, instead of that, have been always used to blackmail Turkiye, to prevent the term "merciful Turks(caused by Islam)" and against spread of Islam religion Laughable side of the event is, people-european civilization who are descended from the most brutal people ever existed in history the cannibal crusaders are obsessively talking about it I would just call it as "Islamophobia" and "Turkophobia" instead of screaming for innocents (role) which haven't been proven anyway

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  • Suna123
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    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post
    If Jacinda Ardern did embrace Islam, would it mean that her husband/boyfriend would now be permitted to give her Quran-inspired beatings

    As a Muslim women she has to divorce her non-Muslim husband anyway.....says the Quran.

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