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  • #16
    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

    It should be noted that this was very much the state of that region before European colonial activity.



    You are totally correct - see the above comment. It was all happening before petroleum production was on any sort of scale before European colonisation.



    No it hasn't. Rather like the pressures that build up on rival criminal gangs when their "business" in things like narcotics or prostitution gets squeezed and profits are not so high anymore.



    Yes, and definitely exacerbated by "Religion of peace" turning women into baby factories.



    Definitely a catalyst that caused peadophile Muhammad and his followers initially to go on a stealing and enslavement rampage. However, a lot of the huge environmental problems you see in the wider Middle East are a product of the exploitation and neglect that many centuries of Islamic rule generated in that region of the world.



    Why not? Those born into Muslim backgrounds in the Middle East who leave Islam have far more commonality with the West and Western secular values than Orthodox Jews born in Western countries.



    The interesting question is "Why?". You need look no further than Islamic dogma and early Islamic history. The key word is "fitna".

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fitna_(word)

    In short.. In Islam, "deviation" or "dissension" is even far worse than murdering. There are certain things in Islamic dogma that are stated very clearly such as murdering apostates. Others are less clear, rather vague and a little more open to interpretation. This creates the groundwork for different Islamic groups to fight and murder each other in a very Islamic-friendly manner.

    Hence you see subcults like ISIS and the Taliban in Afghanistan killing each other in droves. Murdering those who are even further placed away on the spectrum such as Sufis in a Sinai mosque is very much a no-brainer in their eyes.
    Yeah, somehow i see it very similar, even if I didn't noticed earlier such strong relation between culture and major religion as an European.
    On the other hand, if there is lack of objective and normal education such religious and dogmatic ideologies are filling the void in humans minds. Oh... and it causes irresponsible child birth behavior too... No matter if i can afford a kid or not it's allah's blessing.
    Lack of responsibility and long term social strategies, cultural machiavellianism, religious indoctrination, more factors aren't necessary to explain such behavior.

    The question is, do we really need such individuals in European societies? my answer is definitely no.
    Last edited by Hades91; 12-01-2017, 11:24 AM.

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    • #17
      You are an idiot and a loser whose only past time is looking for a reason to hate Muslims I guess that will suffice you bro don't worry I support you

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      • #18
        Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post

        Perhaps your answer can be found in Sura 3:118-120. Essentially, a Muslim who gives the impression of being critical of Islam in front of unbelievers is frowned upon. Imams who do speak up and criticize Muslim violence are threatened. A good example of this would be Imam Mohammad Tawhidi of Australia
        Actually Imam Tawhidi is a perfect example of what I had been talking about regarding Muslim on Muslim violence. You see, Tawhidi is a Shia Muslim, not a Sunni.

        So, all the Sunni nutters in Australia say all sorts of things about him - that he is a "fake" Imam and that kind of thing. Also of course there are the death threats and the like for describing Sunni terrorist acts as terrorism.

        Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post
        who is an outspoken critic of Islamic violence
        If it is Sunni Islamic violence, he is very much critical of it. On the other hand, for the the incident of [b]Shia[\b] terrorism in Australia - the Lindt Cafe Siege in Sydney in December 2014 - he has been suspiciously silent.

        Funny enough, the Lindt Cafe siege was the only instance of Islamic terrorism where we saw all the "Islamic religious leaders" in Australia come out on the media and condemn immediately. Of course, just about every single one of them were Sunnis

        Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post
        and of Qur'anic incitement to violence.
        Ah, the uniting thread for both Sunnis and Shia - lying and bullshitting to Nonmuslims about what is really in Islamic dogma

        And don't worry, he's also into the same shit as the Sunnis when their mutual interests are served, e.g.

        https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/a...ws-not-changed

        Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post
        As such, Imam Tawhidi has received threats and hate mail....from Muslims!
        The Muslims sending him the hate mail - specifically Sunnis - don't regard him as being Muslim. So, he gets the Kafir treatment. On the other hand, like all good criminal gangs, they are not going to talk about intergang violence to non-criminals.... Hence you are not going to hear from them about what goes on with the turf wars between rival Islamist gangs.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
          Yeah, somehow i see it very similar, even if I didn't noticed earlier such strong relation between culture and major religion as an European.
          Most people most likely make the mistake that "Christianity and Islam must be similar because they believe in the same God". Christianity for all its faults is largely a religion that mainly stays away from most cultural and political aspects of life. Islam has no such distinctions. Muslims who are doing dawah (Islamic preaching) will tell you very proudly about how Islam "has answers for every single aspect of life".

          To put it bluntly - Islam tells Muslims how to eat, shit, piss and fuck. Even birth and death get the encompassing cult treatment. In between all these normal life activities, Islam strictly controls Muslims regarding who they can have as genuine friends, who they are allowed to marry and what they can and can't wear.

          Without any knowledge about what is in actually in Islamic dogma, people have absolutely no idea what is happening and why and, just as importantly, how to spot and control it.

          Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
          On the other hand, if there is lack of objective and normal education such religious and dogmatic ideologies are filling the void in humans minds.
          If I were an evil controlling sociopath who wanted to found a cult - Islam is a perfect model. Dogma to control even the smallest details of a life, a debilitating regime of 5 times a day prayer mumbling the same crap and a need to fill your head memorising bullshit like the Quran.

          Here's what goes on in typical madrassas:



          After brainwashing activity like that, relatively few have the ability to learn like normal people. Scientology is a second-rate cult in comparison with Islam.

          Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
          Oh... and it causes irresponsible child birth behavior too... No matter if i can afford a kid or not it's allah's blessing.
          Islamic dogma has instant solutions to overpopulation problems - sending out people to conquer and enslave.

          Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
          Lack of responsibility and long term social strategies, cultural machiavellianism, religious indoctrination, more factors aren't necessary to explain such behavior.
          It's all in Islamic dogma the reasons why they are justified in conquering and terrorising.

          Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
          The question is, do we really need such individuals in European societies? my answer is definitely no.
          No society needs individuals who are completely brainwashed into cults which regard non-members of the cult to be 2nd or 3rd class citizens and whose cult dogma states that they will ultimately control everything.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

            Actually Imam Tawhidi is a perfect example of what I had been talking about regarding Muslim on Muslim violence. You see, Tawhidi is a Shia Muslim, not a Sunni.

            So, all the Sunni nutters in Australia say all sorts of things about him - that he is a "fake" Imam and that kind of thing. Also of course there are the death threats and the like for describing Sunni terrorist acts as terrorism.


            If it is Sunni Islamic violence, he is very much critical of it. On the other hand, for the the incident of [b]Shia[\b] terrorism in Australia - the Lindt Cafe Siege in Sydney in December 2014 - he has been suspiciously silent.

            Funny enough, the Lindt Cafe siege was the only instance of Islamic terrorism where we saw all the "Islamic religious leaders" in Australia come out on the media and condemn immediately. Of course, just about every single one of them were Sunnis


            Ah, the uniting thread for both Sunnis and Shia - lying and bullshitting to Nonmuslims about what is really in Islamic dogma

            And don't worry, he's also into the same shit as the Sunnis when their mutual interests are served, e.g.

            https://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/a...ws-not-changed


            The Muslims sending him the hate mail - specifically Sunnis - don't regard him as being Muslim. So, he gets the Kafir treatment. On the other hand, like all good criminal gangs, they are not going to talk about intergang violence to non-criminals.... Hence you are not going to hear from them about what goes on with the turf wars between rival Islamist gangs.
            Yeah...well, a Muslim cleric is still a Muslim cleric. It doesn't really matter what branch of Islam he's following, or even if other Muslims think he isn't Muslim. He's still beholden to the spiritual filth that is Islam. I've said elsewhere that the only safe Muslim is the one who doesn't follow his faith and sees it only as a cultural definition. The nominal Muslims I know personally hate Islam the religion. Are they potentially dangerous? yes, just as an unloaded gun may be considered dangerous because of what it represents.

            And to be fair, every one of us can go bezerk and start hurting people. The difference between us and Muslims is that Islam encourages its followers to go bezerk towards infidels.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Lifeup View Post
              You are an idiot and a loser whose only past time is looking for a reason to hate Muslims I guess that will suffice you bro don't worry I support you
              Mhhh.. Mister Ikrash, your contribution to this topic and to this entire discussion is zero, with exception of polemic of a 12 yo. kid. Take better care about your serotonin level, eat a banana or do what Muslims do, think you're on a goat farm so something like that. Then come back and write something less salty and without such butt-hole pain.


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              • #22
                Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                Most people most likely make the mistake that "Christianity and Islam must be similar because they believe in the same God". Christianity for all its faults is largely a religion that mainly stays away from most cultural and political aspects of life. Islam has no such distinctions. Muslims who are doing dawah (Islamic preaching) will tell you very proudly about how Islam "has answers for every single aspect of life".

                To put it bluntly - Islam tells Muslims how to eat, shit, piss and fuck. Even birth and death get the encompassing cult treatment. In between all these normal life activities, Islam strictly controls Muslims regarding who they can have as genuine friends, who they are allowed to marry and what they can and can't wear.

                Without any knowledge about what is in actually in Islamic dogma, people have absolutely no idea what is happening and why and, just as importantly, how to spot and control it.
                As I visited catholic religion hours in the school, I have been taught to respect and to tolerate other religions. Even if we in poland are blessed with stupid politicians which are obsessed with abortion ban and value of unborn life, the influence on life of the church is minimal. Girls wear minis if they have something to show, premarital sex ins't even a discussion worthy topic here, everyone has it. If you sin and you're a believer, then you go to confession and you will get an absolution. Because humans aren't perfect and after some time comes a new idiot aehm... Messiah and dies for our sins again.
                It seems that Islam is in this context far much more extremist, a sin means mostly death sentence. And you're right with the influence in of Islam in any aspect of life. I suppose Islam causes some kind of neurosis
                - Obsessive–compulsive disorder = praying 5 time per day
                - Hysteria = irrational and uncontrollable anxiety to do something wrong what isn't in sense of Quran. Mass hysteria by particular political events.
                - Anxiety disorders = something like social phobia that somebody outside your islamic society could do something wrong and dispute you like the person, you would be obliged to punish (behead) that person. Hence better keep distance. Muslims women should fear contact with other men because they will get automatically harm and unworthy if they would dare to sleep with them
                - Schizoid personality disorder = dehumanization of people who don't share your opinion/ideology and defamation of their opinions a unworthy and delusional. Rape is justified if the haram woman asked for it because she showed her feminine assets.
                - as last the paranoia = everyone outside your belief circle is an enemy and tries to destabilize you as well as to steal your property. You can see it clearly in never ending complains about colonialism and seeking of the guilty on all others.

                Aside on those all symptoms you can notice the always present behavior of pseudo superiority and manic-depressive bipolarity. Islam will dominate the world ... but you're all guilty that innocent Muslims kill each other.
                From psychological point of view is every pious/devoted Muslim seriously mental ill with all those contradictory expressions about him self, his belief and everything around him.

                Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

                If I were an evil controlling sociopath who wanted to found a cult - Islam is a perfect model. Dogma to control even the smallest details of a life, a debilitating regime of 5 times a day prayer mumbling the same crap and a need to fill your head memorising bullshit like the Quran.

                Here's what goes on in typical madrassas:



                After brainwashing activity like that, relatively few have the ability to learn like normal people. Scientology is a second-rate cult in comparison with Islam.
                Well this video shows what is wrong with Islam teaching and with western societies.
                Imagine a Brit would speak such hate speech towards other beliefs, he wouldn't get with less than 5 years for that.
                On the one hand we have here an example of islamic radicalization in those islamic schools in the west, on the other the passivity of British officials which certainly know what happens there, but they allow such radicalization of their minorities. What for a reason stand behind such behavior of Brits is another topic





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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                  As I visited catholic religion hours in the school, I have been taught to respect and to tolerate other religions. Even if we in poland are blessed with stupid politicians which are obsessed with abortion ban and value of unborn life, the influence on life of the church is minimal. Girls wear minis if they have something to show, premarital sex ins't even a discussion worthy topic here, everyone has it.
                  The Catholic Church is often given as an example of "a religious organisation with high political involvement". On the scale of things, it barely ranks a murmur to Islam's intervention in everyday and private life. Islam even regulates farting among every other human activity!!! After all, "rasool" Muhammad was the sort of person who absolutely couldn't stand people farting (but probably through his personal own didn't stink - just as his urine was something holy, a treatment for disease and so on whereas if you spilt a bit of your own on yourself then this was a ticket for massive pain "in the grave").

                  Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                  If you sin and you're a believer, then you go to confession and you will get an absolution. Because humans aren't perfect and after some time comes a new idiot aehm... Messiah and dies for our sins again.
                  It seems that Islam is in this context far much more extremist, a sin means mostly death sentence.
                  Islam has a far greater and cunning trick regarding "dying for your sins". This one is "dying in Jihad". This is all very clearly laid out in Islamic dogma - die in Jihad and it's forgiveness of just about everything (except financial debts interestingly) with the added sweetener of neverending presence in Allah's afterlife brothel of Jannah. Hence you see all the Islamic (ex)criminals such as drug dealers and so on falling over themselves to become suicide terrorist attackers in the West and many other places.

                  Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                  And you're right with the influence in of Islam in any aspect of life. I suppose Islam causes some kind of neurosis
                  - Obsessive–compulsive disorder = praying 5 time per day
                  - Hysteria = irrational and uncontrollable anxiety to do something wrong what isn't in sense of Quran. Mass hysteria by particular political events.
                  - Anxiety disorders = something like social phobia that somebody outside your islamic society could do something wrong and dispute you like the person, you would be obliged to punish (behead) that person. Hence better keep distance. Muslims women should fear contact with other men because they will get automatically harm and unworthy if they would dare to sleep with them
                  - Schizoid personality disorder = dehumanization of people who don't share your opinion/ideology and defamation of their opinions a unworthy and delusional. Rape is justified if the haram woman asked for it because she showed her feminine assets.
                  - as last the paranoia = everyone outside your belief circle is an enemy and tries to destabilize you as well as to steal your property. You can see it clearly in never ending complains about colonialism and seeking of the guilty on all others.
                  Yes, Islam academically displays every single point of being a cult!!!

                  http://www.csj.org/infoserv_cult101/checklis.htm

                  Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                  Aside on those all symptoms you can notice the always present behavior of pseudo superiority and manic-depressive bipolarity. Islam will dominate the world ... but you're all guilty that innocent Muslims kill each other.
                  From psychological point of view is every pious/devoted Muslim seriously mental ill with all those contradictory expressions about him self, his belief and everything around him.
                  Being a cult member, your mental health naturally suffers - even if you don't believe the shit constituted in your cult.

                  Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                  Well this video shows what is wrong with Islam teaching and with western societies.
                  Imagine a Brit would speak such hate speech towards other beliefs, he wouldn't get with less than 5 years for that.
                  On the one hand we have here an example of islamic radicalization in those islamic schools in the west, on the other the passivity of British officials which certainly know what happens there, but they allow such radicalization of their minorities. What for a reason stand behind such behavior of Brits is another topic
                  The Brits are a surprisingly tolerant lot. Islam is a cult with severe double standards.

                  When such a cult meets tolerance, they take them for suckers - just like any criminal gang who spots an "opportunity". Double standards apply.

                  Postcolonialist morons buy the whining shit about "discrimination" from Islamists - just as certain people in society buy it from criminal scum who whine about the police who are only doing their job
                  .



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                  • #24
                    Guys, you should take some pacifiers

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                    • #25
                      only if jihad is over or mudslims remain in their shitholes

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Hades91 View Post
                        only if jihad is over or mudslims remain in their shitholes
                        You really should let Muslims live in Poland so that Poles could also benefit from the peace of Islam. Why should France, the UK, Sweden and Germany get most of the excitement?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Dref View Post
                          Guys, you should take some pacifiers
                          Like this one?

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                          • #28
                            Believers of no other religion are so hurt after somebody dared to reveal criticism about their cult than Muslims. No other one religion is so overwhelmingly represented in religiously motivated terror statistics than Islam.
                            Alas! we should remain silent if an islamic motivated nutter drives with a truck over European children because of political correctness?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post

                              You really should let Muslims live in Poland so that Poles could also benefit from the peace of Islam. Why should France, the UK, Sweden and Germany get most of the excitement?

                              We are poor in Poland, no welfare. I ate something last time five days ago, my wife brings barely 60 and I 76 kg. We have no coal, gas or wood for the oven and it's cold... soo cold here. You can't go outside because bears, wolves and dogs are hunting people which are too weak to flee of them. because of hunger.
                              Dear illegals don't come here, you will die.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Hades91 View Post

                                We are poor in Poland, no welfare. I ate something last time five days ago, my wife brings barely 60 and I 76 kg. We have no coal, gas or wood for the oven and it's cold... soo cold here. You can't go outside because bears, wolves and dogs are hunting people which are too weak to flee of them. because of hunger.
                                Dear illegals don't come here, you will die.
                                LOL...I'm sorry you have no food. Can you hunt? What kind of wild animals are there in Poland? Polish bears? Polish deer? Polish geese? If you don't have money to buy bullets to hunt wild Polish animals, you could steal Polish chickens from rich Polish capitalists. You could aslo eat stray Polish dogs & cats.

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