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  • jordan_rudess
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    A Question for Muslims [2]

    Recently I've seen some strange muslim woman in hijan but with her mouth covered with some piece of metal. Didn't look well.
    What is it and why you cover your women's mouth with metal like to a horse? I'm not even joking this is seriously weird guys.

  • Joubmah
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    Ok. So don't you think that parading in your traditional clothing in the streets of another country is a little bit ostentatious? Or rude to put it simple?
    How would people in your country react if Poles were walking in Polish traditional clothes in your streets?
    Not that my problem is only with muslims mind you. Once I saw a Japanese woman dressed in kimono here. She also looked weird as f***
    Yes, this proposition seems reasonable however, one must consider the situation of that person or family (new resident, tourism...)
    I think it takes some time for everyone (there are those who are happy to change quickly and there are those who need time) I think those who cling more to his culture are Africans and Asians (dress, language...)


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  • Joubmah
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post
    you are a pig.
    Do not discuss with me.
    A stupid pig.

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  • jordan_rudess
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post

    She is not in religion.
    Is something of popular tradition (heritage).
    Ok. So don't you think that parading in your traditional clothing in the streets of another country is a little bit ostentatious? Or rude to put it simple?
    How would people in your country react if Poles were walking in Polish traditional clothes in your streets?
    Not that my problem is only with muslims mind you. Once I saw a Japanese woman dressed in kimono here. She also looked weird as f***

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post
    you are a pig.
    Do not discuss with me.
    You seem triggered little boy - and avoiding trying to answer this question "for whatever reason":

    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post
    So, women were forced into wearing tents in Islam because Umar trolled Muhammad about seeing his wives taking a shit at night and being able to identify them....
    Talking about pigs - both Umar and Muhammad are total pigs here. Umar trolls Muhammad about seeing a wife of his take a dump at night and even trolls Muhammad into "revealing" Quran verses about "women covering up"

    Here's a sahih hadith from Bukhari that describes the scene:


    Narrated 'Aisha: (the wife of the Prophet) 'Umar bin Al-Khattab used to say to Allah's Apostle "Let your wives be veiled" But he did not do so. The wives of the Prophet used to go out to answer the call of nature at night only at Al-Manasi.' Once Sauda, the daughter of Zam'a went out and she was a tall woman. 'Umar bin Al-Khattab saw her while he was in a gathering, and said, "I have recognized you, O Sauda!" He ('Umar) said so as he was anxious for some Divine orders regarding the veil (the veiling of women.) So Allah revealed the Verse of veiling. (Al-Hijab; a complete body cover excluding the eyes). (See Hadith No. 148, Vol. 1) Sahih Bukhari 8:74:257
    Yes, that's the excuse Muhammad used to dress up all women in tents

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  • Joubmah
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    Originally posted by Etsia View Post

    Yes, there is a problem if women in tents with metal on their faces are in EUROPEAN streets. Ok if they're just tourists but those who come to live in Europe must not bring their cult traditions to OUR lands. No problem if such women appear in the streets in Islamic places, live as you wish but West does not need any Islam related traditions that are useless, cruel and non compatible with our values.

    A woman in general should not be vulgar. Someone in your pic looks vulgar and European women do not dress like that in the streets. Hijab is not freedom, hijab and burqas are submission many women wish to get rid of. When I flew to Istanbul from Tehran, saw Iranian women tore off their hijabs with pleasure, that gave me the answer they are forced to wear those head coverings. So are tourists. I wore a scarf as I did what was required. Would be great if Muslims do as required in Europe too. Burqas got bans in many European places and no one should wear those tents in Europe. Am saying again, as in Rome, do as Romans do.
    In my opinion, it is not a problem that one lives in a certain country with his culture and his traditions.
    Governments in these countries are obliged to ensure this and the protection and rights of tourists.
    At least as it is with foreign tourists in Arab countries.

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  • Joubmah
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    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

    So, women were forced into wearing tents in Islam because Umar trolled Muhammad about seeing his wives taking a shit at night and being able to identify them....
    you are a pig.
    Do not discuss with me.

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  • Joubmah
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    Just asking. What is the purpose of this in islam? I mean what's the purpose here in Europe not in some Sahara...
    She is not in religion.
    Is something of popular tradition (heritage).

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  • Etsia
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post

    What is the problem with that?
    Is not this freedom like the hijab?

    Or should the woman be such, even we say, she is "civilized, intelligent, ideal" ?

    Yes, there is a problem if women in tents with metal on their faces are in EUROPEAN streets. Ok if they're just tourists but those who come to live in Europe must not bring their cult traditions to OUR lands. No problem if such women appear in the streets in Islamic places, live as you wish but West does not need any Islam related traditions that are useless, cruel and non compatible with our values.

    A woman in general should not be vulgar. Someone in your pic looks vulgar and European women do not dress like that in the streets. Hijab is not freedom, hijab and burqas are submission many women wish to get rid of. When I flew to Istanbul from Tehran, saw Iranian women tore off their hijabs with pleasure, that gave me the answer they are forced to wear those head coverings. So are tourists. I wore a scarf as I did what was required. Would be great if Muslims do as required in Europe too. Burqas got bans in many European places and no one should wear those tents in Europe. Am saying again, as in Rome, do as Romans do.

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  • Etsia
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    No I guess these were tourists, they were taking photos in the city centre. It's a big tourist area where I live, more than 10 million visitors per year. But still this linen/ metal mouth coverage looked weird as f***
    good when they just come and go....

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post

    What is the problem with that?
    Is not this freedom like the hijab?

    Or should the woman be such, even we say, she is "civilized, intelligent, ideal" ?

    So, women were forced into wearing tents in Islam because Umar trolled Muhammad about seeing his wives taking a shit at night and being able to identify them....

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  • VaselineBasket
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post
    So, if it's not related to islam, then who is wearing this in Russia apart from muslims?
    This attribute is not used even Muslims in Russia. Our Muslims are not using burka too.

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  • Elishar
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    This is the batulla and is ostensibly worn to prevent the entry of dust and / or sand...

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  • jordan_rudess
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    Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

    For sure Bedouins out on the street, but not the actual metal mouthpieces and so on.
    Well, I've seen it just a couple days ago. And not in Morocco.

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  • jordan_rudess
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    Originally posted by Joubmah View Post

    What is the problem with that?
    Is not this freedom like the hijab?

    Or should the woman be such, even we say, she is "civilized, intelligent, ideal" ?

    Just asking. What is the purpose of this in islam? I mean what's the purpose here in Europe not in some Sahara...

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