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  • Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
    Progressive islam is a meme of few deluded fucks living in western societies but progressive Islam doesn't exist under islamic majority.
    And something put forward by politicians who don't have the intellectual balls to put one and one together and say "two".

    Milo perhaps gets it wrong about automatically "letting her stay", I suspect that his knowledge of Islam also needs to be worked on - more on that later.

    Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
    This woman has been in the same kind deluded like people who moved for living in Islamic State,
    She's actually several steps before that. She's definitely what you might call "culturally Islamic" - the attribute of bluff and bullshit lying and, in the context of Australian society, playing the Muruna game:

    https://pjmedia.com/blog/muruna-viol...fool-the-west/

    In her case, in spite of her being extremely "culturally Islamic", she's out and about without a vitamin-D deficiency causing hijab and even pursuing a career as a model. Now, if her family were not good with that for "whatever reason", then she would have been ordered not to and her father would have given her the specific instruction. If she further refused to comply then her father would have given her a Quran-sanctioned beating. At this point there are four possibilities -
    • off to a women's shelter, in which Muslim-background women are hugely overrepresented in Australia;
    • ultimately an honour killing if she continually refuses in spite of a few beatings of increasing severity;
    • run away and completely break with the family or
    • simply say "yes father, you know what is best - I'll put the hijab covering on right away before my cousins visit this evening".
    In short, the father of the woman is also in on the muruna game here - by permitting his daughter to go around without hijab and even pursue a modelling career. Still, he would probably give her a severe beating if she even dared to mutter the words "I'm leaving Islam" in front of him.

    "Muruna" has been around as long as Islam has been around - Muhammad himself was doing it during the Mecca stage of his prophet career. "The Satanic Verses" are a perfect example of him playing that game in Mecca with the Qurayish tribe he had belonged to - by worshipping three of their Goddesses. Later on of course Muhammad repudiates this with a bluff and bullshit story about "Satan made him say it".

    Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
    especially those who really believed in the (self)-deception of peaceful Islam. Such dumbfucks are the cancer of western societies.
    The dumbfucks who had been and still are even now off joining ISIS have already gone through the stages of "rediscovering Islam". It's the final wet dream to live under a Caliph and Islamic law applied to the letter.

    Before they get to that stage, they go from the "cultural Islamic" stage of that woman in the video to the next one. She'd probably have a conversation just like Milo had with her except that it would end with "you are embarrassing Muslims if you have conversations with Kafirs like that - come down to the mosque, meet the sisters and learn something more about our shared faith".

    So off she goes to learn the basics of Islam - she would finally learn what the 5 pillars of Islam actually are (her father probably also doesn't know them but have no fear - he knows how to put the Islamic cultural elements of beating women under his control for refusing to listen to him), learns what to mutter when banging her head against a mosque floor or the carpet to be rolled out at home 5 times a day, how to mutter a couple of prayers and even a few nice short Quran Suras such as the bullshit of Sura 109 about "your religion and my religion" - still keeping the "theme of peaceful Islam" for now.

    The next stage is getting to know more and more of the bullshit rituals that Muslims have to perform in their daily lives - how they are supposed to eat, shit, piss, have sex and sleep and, further, and what they are supposed to mutter during, before and after. She'll also go through the girly ritual of "trying out a hijab" and she'll have all her 'sisters" telling her how wonderful and beautiful she looks wearing it". Soon, she'll be wearing it regularly. Also, she's learning Arabic now and getting into more of the Islamic dogma, she's ready for the next stage.

    At this point, she'll learn that many of the nice things she associated with were "bi’dah" or "innovation" - inventing ideas that are not in Islam. She would also be taught about naskh or "abrogation" and why some of the "nice" verses she had learnt were not so "nice".

    From here, she is ready for ISIS. Her only personal escape route is to completely repudiate the basic notions of Allah and Muhammad - she's now fully versed in what is in Islam.

    Now back to Milo's conversation with her.... she's already set up to become an ISIS-like breeding machine from growing up in an Islamist background. About her only hope is to learn all about what is really in the Quran and the Hadiths - Muhammad's peadophila expressed clearly in the Sahih Ahadith, how abrogation works in the Quran and what the really nasty and final-revealed verses actually say. To "be allowed to stay", she should pass written and oral exams on these matters to ascertain if she is not merely applying more muruna on these materials

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    • Originally posted by aussieinbg View Post

      ..........

      Now back to Milo's conversation with her.... she's already set up to become an ISIS-like breeding machine from growing up in an Islamist background. About her only hope is to learn all about what is really in the Quran and the Hadiths - Muhammad's peadophila expressed clearly in the Sahih Ahadith, how abrogation works in the Quran and what the really nasty and final-revealed verses actually say. To "be allowed to stay", she should pass written and oral exams on these matters to ascertain if she is not merely applying more muruna on these materials
      She is advocating Islam without necessary knowledge of Islamic reality as women. That's why 99% of western women who fall for the "Arabic prince" and move into an islamic society to be their wives are back in their western home countries after short time.
      Islam isn't so tasty for women when there is no security provided by a western society.
      See the another thread of crying former ISIS members/wives who get their western passport revoked and have no way back into civilization.

      Some people are fools, others unrealistic opportunists with illusory ambitions. Both those groups have one common trait, they are thinking always "I'm much better then all others".

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      • If Islamophobia said they know Al-Quran really well then if that is true they must be convert to Islam directly.
        To many times i see people insulting our prophet Muhammad as pedophile. It doesn't make sense that a pedophile become a role model and number one man in Islam. Why no one people criticize His marriage with Aisyah Ra at that time? Because they are married in the right way. She is an adult.
        Islamophobia really happy to use a hadith that narrated from a man after become senile. If you all know Islam so well then you must be knows the shahih hadith that can refer about Aisyah Ra age.
        You all too busy insulting Islam but i doubt you know and do your religion really well.

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        • Originally posted by emaarena View Post
          If Islamophobia said they know Al-Quran really well then if that is true they must be convert to Islam directly.
          To many times i see people insulting our prophet Muhammad as pedophile. It doesn't make sense that a pedophile become a role model and number one man in Islam. Why no one people criticize His marriage with Aisyah Ra at that time? Because they are married in the right way. She is an adult.
          Islamophobia really happy to use a hadith that narrated from a man after become senile. If you all know Islam so well then you must be knows the shahih hadith that can refer about Aisyah Ra age.
          You all too busy insulting Islam but i doubt you know and do your religion really well.
          I am the poster, and I'm an ex Muslim, so I maybe know Islam more than many people who think that they are really real Muslims because they just inherited... but for me it was something else. because I was too religious which means I read Islam well...so go search for what I have said about Qur'an and if it wasn't real, come and let me know

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          • Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
            She is advocating Islam without necessary knowledge of Islamic reality as women. That's why 99% of western women who fall for the "Arabic prince" and move into an islamic society to be their wives are back in their western home countries after short time.
            In Islam, it's highly acceptable to lie and deceive Nonmuslims in order to make Islam "look better". Especially on the list is "romancing" someone to get them to convert to Islam. This is called love jihad. They don't get the truth until they are in too deep and there is a good chance that Stockholm Syndrome can take over. Still, quite a lot of them escape. For example, something like 75% of converts to Islam in the US leave after 5 years. After marriage, there is huge pressure for the woman to convert to peadophile Muhammad's cult - and most do under all sorts of emotional and other blackmail.

            There's also the Muslima trapping the Nonmuslim male love jihad game. The trap is a little different here - many will threaten with emotional and sexual blackmail "you can't have me until you convert".

            There's actually a second very interesting stream that is also followed - the Muslima is permitted to "break the rules of Islam" to ultimately get the male convert. Many will use this as the pretext to "have fun" with Nonmuslim men. It can be her escape hatch if caught with a male Nonmuslim - she simply pretends that she is just making Islam "look good"...

            Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
            Islam isn't so tasty for women when there is no security provided by a western society.
            The first Quran-sanctioned beating or two usually drives home the message that Islam isn't so nice...

            Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
            See the another thread of crying former ISIS members/wives who get their western passport revoked and have no way back into civilization.
            Typical Islamist arrogance and double standards from them. The thread is here (just in case you didn't see it):

            http://forum.interpals.net/forum/int...ries-of-origin

            Originally posted by Hades91x View Post
            Some people are fools, others unrealistic opportunists with illusory ambitions. Both those groups have one common trait, they are thinking always "I'm much better then all others".
            The particular segment who act like that are the Islamist women who willingly wear hijab - they even treat other Muslim women like shit.

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            • Originally posted by emaarena View Post
              If you all know Islam so well then you must be knows the shahih hadith that can refer about Aisyah Ra age.
              There are many Hadiths who say that. Here is one of them: https://muflihun.com/bukhari/58/236

              Shahih Bukhari: 5:58:236
              حَدَّثَنِي عُبَيْدُ بْنُ إِسْمَاعِيلَ، حَدَّثَنَا أَبُو أُسَامَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ تُوُفِّيَتْ خَدِيجَةُ قَبْلَ مَخْرَجِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم إِلَى الْمَدِينَةِ بِثَلاَثِ سِنِينَ، فَلَبِثَ سَنَتَيْنِ أَوْ قَرِيبًا مِنْ ذَلِكَ، وَنَكَحَ عَائِشَةَ وَهْىَ بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ، ثُمَّ بَنَى بِهَا وَهْىَ بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ‏.‏
              Khadija died three years before the Prophet departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married 'Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old.

              And here another shahih one: https://muflihun.com/muslim/8/3310

              Shahih Muslim: 8:3310
              وَحَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، ح وَحَدَّثَنَا ابْنُ نُمَيْرٍ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - حَدَّثَنَا عَبْدَةُ، - هُوَ ابْنُ سُلَيْمَانَ - عَنْ هِشَامٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، عَنْ عَائِشَةَ، قَالَتْ تَزَوَّجَنِي النَّبِيُّ صلى الله عليه وسلم وَأَنَا بِنْتُ سِتِّ سِنِينَ وَبَنَى بِي وَأَنَا بِنْتُ تِسْعِ سِنِينَ ‏.‏
              'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (Peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old.

              Muflihun is a good site to study hadiths.
              Last edited by Suna123; 03-16-2019, 05:47 AM.

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              • Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                If Islamophobia
                This one starts proceedings with bullshit terminology.

                Doesn't matter if the definition is from Runnymeade Trust - the originators of this bullshit terminology:

                http://forum.interpals.net/forum/int...91#post2777991

                or postmodernist kooks at Berkeley:

                http://forum.interpals.net/forum/int...59#post2877459

                Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                said they know Al-Quran really well then if that is true they must be convert to Islam directly.
                I've read the Quran a few times and much of the Sahih Ahadith. Evil literature which at times gets repetitive and monotonous.

                Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                To many times i see people insulting our prophet Muhammad as pedophile. It doesn't make sense that a pedophile become a role model and number one man in Islam. Why no one people criticize His marriage with Aisyah Ra at that time? Because they are married in the right way. She is an adult.
                Another poster has very clearly shown just before that Muhammad was a peadophile to Aisha.

                Peadophile Muhammad was not just into fucking little girls - he was into sex acts with little boys

                Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: “The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter Title: “Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan”:
                “I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)
                He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..”
                روى أنه صلى الله عليه و سلم قبل زبيبة الحسن أو الحسين
                He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein
                رأيت النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
                He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis
                Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
                رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
                translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”
                Muhammad was a piece of pigshit peadophile who would be beaten to death in most prisons around the world - even most criminals have at least some moral standards, except if they follow Muhammad's sunnah regarding sex with children...

                Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                Islamophobia
                Oh, that bullshit word again which is supposed to silence me





                Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                really happy to use a hadith that narrated from a man after become senile. If you all know Islam so well then you must be knows the shahih hadith that can refer about Aisyah Ra age.
                Oh, declaring Bukhari as "senile"???????

                You are blaspheming here - most of Islamic practice in day to day life is via Buhkari's hadiths!!! You are awaiting the worst level of hell reserved for hypocrites!!!

                Originally posted by emaarena View Post
                You all too busy insulting Islam but i doubt you know and do your religion really well.
                More scripted shit from an Islamist doing dawah making the assumption that everyone must believe in a fictional skydaddy such as peadophile Muhammad's imaginary friend Allah....

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