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    I usually ask Muslims if they would give their daughters at 6years old or 7years old to old men at 40years old or more...they answer is usually " No, that's illogic, that's so fucking mean and awful "

    Yeah it is actually, it's empty of the humanity, because of this creed or such rule we rape the childhood of some kids...

    When i say that Muhammed got married with Aisha when she was a girl of 6 and he had sex with her when she was a girl of 9, as she said herself in Hadith... “It is reported from Aisha that she said: The Prophet entered into marriage with me when I was a girl of six … and at the time [of joining his household] I was a girl of nine years of age.”
    I have noticed that many have been shocked when I mentioned this hadith on their ears, A lot of Muslims never heard of...

    as we know how our brains work, they do their best to not believe that, and to keep in their comfort zone,
    they keep defending in unconscious way, the brain keeps playing all its games to make them in the safe side...most of them keep telling me that there's a Allah's wisdom in this matter or Aisha and all people were so strong and so on at that era...or that was a specific rule or concept that Allah made it only for Muhammed, not all muslims, what the most Muslims don't know, is that this rule wasn't only for Muhammed... it still happens in some islamic states nowadays, the islamic preachers " fokaha2 " talked about it and they are still...and they are with, not against at all, the hadith above is one of their evidences...we all know that the muslim man has the right to marry four women but Muhammed got married 11 and there's another Hadith " riwaya " says he got married 12 or 13 women...this rule was only for Muhammed but not all Muslim men,we agree. however, the other muslims have only the right to get four women. the main point here is that the rule of getting married with a child not a specific rule ( only for Muhammed ) but for all Muslims...
    there are some other hadith and a verse on Quran too which appears that Islam is not against this phenomena...

    Last edited by Keine-namen; 03-01-2019, 04:40 PM.

  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Idj117 View Post
    aussieinbg I figured out the answer.. It took me 2 millennia and a religious reformation. The answer is: "Too young"
    I wonder how long it will take Islamists to discover that their "prophet" was a peadophile pervert and sexual deviant who made even Jimmy Savile look almost innocent... Or are they simply happy with living the cultist perverted sexually dysfunctional dream?

    Unfortunately, with the way that Islam's dogma is structured, you're not going to see a religious reformation of the type we associate with Christianity.

    The Quran can't be edited to make it "nicer" (except in devious translation from Arabic, another story there). All the peadophile-friendly verses of the Quran are not going anywhere soon...

    Muhammad is defined as the "seal of the prophets" - meaning that there can be no "future prophet" to correct the multitude of mistakes of Muhammad such as his sexual lust for small girls and small boys. Also, Muhammad gets the title in Islam of "Rasool" which can translate as "perfect man" - meaning in practice that Muslims are obliged to follow Muhammad's sunnah or "example" as laid out in the hadiths (sayings and deeds associated with Muhammad). This of course includes sexual acts on children and lusting after them.

    It's little wonder that 84% of peadophile grooming gangs in Britain are of mainly Islamic heritage in spite of such people being only about 5% of the population - they are merely following Muhammad's sunnah of sex with children. Muhammad himself ran around in criminal gangs looking for sex slaves by raiding and pillaging caravans across the desert and these gangs simply also follow this sunnah:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newcastle_sex_abuse_ring

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rother...tation_scandal

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochda...sex_abuse_ring

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_...sex_abuse_ring

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  • Idj117
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    aussieinbg I figured out the answer.. It took me 2 millennia and a religious reformation. The answer is: "Too young"

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  • aussieinbg
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    Ruling # 12: It is not permission to have intercourse before (her) being 9 years old, be it in nikah (permanent marriage) or temporary marriage. And as for all other pleasures such as lustful touch, embracing, and thighing, there is no problem in it even with a suckling infant. If he does have sexual intercourse before nine years of age and does not penetrate, there is no penalty, but he has committed a sin. If he does penetrate causing the vagina and urethra openings to be one, she will become forever haram for him, but this is as a precaution. And it is more probable that her status as his wife is not removed. And the rulings of inheritance, and the prohibition of a fifth wife or marriage to her sister applies. And it is waajib upon him for her maintenance as long as she is alive, even if he divorces her and even if she marries after divorcing her as a precautionary measure. And it is waajib upon him for blood money for the penetration and the amount is equivalent to that of an individual. If she is a free-woman, the amount is half that of a man, plus the dowry that she became entitled to through the `aqd and penetration. If he penetrates his wife after the age of nine, she does not become haram to him and there is no evidence that blood money is liable, but as a precautionary measure, he should maintain her as long as she is alive, although it is more probable that this is not obligatory."
    Source: al-Khomeini, Tahreer al-Waseelah, vol. 2, pg. 241, Kitaab al-Nikaah, Ruling # 12

    The definition of "thighing" i.e. Mufaakhathah was given in my previous post....

    Yes, Islam is a filthy peadophile cult - the ability to perform peadophile sex acts even on suckling infants

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  • aussieinbg
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    Question

    Asalamualaykumwarahmatullahiwabarakatahu can you explain to me the thing called "thighing" also pronounced "mufa

    Answer

    All perfect praise be to Allaah, The Lord of the Worlds. I testify that there is none worthy of worship except Allaah, and that Muhammad is His slave and Messenger. We ask Allaah to exalt his mention as well as that of his family and all his companions.

    The term Mufaakhathah means to have foreplay with the wife in between her thighs. It is reported in one narration that when the Prophet wanted to enjoy one of his wives who was in menstruation, he would put a piece of cloth on her vagina (i.e. cover it). [Ibn Maajah].

    The author of Faydh Al-Qadeer interpreted the expression 'if he wanted to enjoy to mean having all permissible foreplay but avoiding the vagina [or the anus], like in between her thighs (i.e. Mufaakhathah).
    Allaah Knows best.


    http://www.islamweb.net/en/fatwa/92051/

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  • DrSchadenfreude
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    No no troll, actualy you DO support pedophiles. If you claim this is sexual orientation, the next step is to demand equal rights and stop discriminate pedos against another sexual orientation that is heterosexuality

    Stop being hypocrite and admit you like and support pedophiles and their demands
    No no catholicophile, I DON'T support pedophiles, however it is easy to see why you DO and wish I did, then we could both join the catholic pedophile church and train to become catholicophile priests

    Yup evidence suggests pedophilia is a sexual orientation, even by the clumsy link that you once posted it said pedos have pedo feelings at the same time hetros have hetro feeling which is around puberty. I would say as it is likely it is a sexual orientation then there is no cure, I would also say if there is no cure then anyone caught being a pedo should be jailed for life to stop them re-offending, so yes once again I can see how this would infuriate you, you don't want to have your catholicophile friends in jail forever

    Stop lying and tell the truth, admit you are a catholic pedo priest supporter and abuse victim blaming catholicophile yourself

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  • aussieinbg
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    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    Mohammet was a penniless orphan..He subsisted by tending sheep,a girls job...
    He could not afford a wife,,what self respecting father would give him a young virgin daughter ?
    Khadija was a wealthy widow who needed a man to live in Her house for protection against all the fortune seekers..She chose mohammet because he had nothing and could not take from her...
    She wanted a toyboy. Khadrija is a primary reason why young Muslim males in their early 20s in places like Morocco, Turkey or West Africa are more than happy to marry 60-something year old women.

    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    She bore him daughters and died...Mohammet got his young virgin bride in the form of Aisha and from there it was all downhill..He obtained his other wives under dubious circumstances except for Maria the Coptic Christian slave girl she gave him a SON ,sickly weak and destined for an early death....Of ALL his wives except Khadija no children yet moslems speak of his great sexual powers..
    Well, there's something of a disconnect between Islamic fairytales about Muhammad's "sexual prowess" of banging all his wives on the one night and the number of children he was able to produce.

    Muhammad also liked dressing up in his wives clothes - which of course leads us to questions about why he married these women... must have been for their wardrobes...

    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    One of his daughters had a son Ali and at the death of mohammet his ISLAM was split forever between abu bakra the father of Aisha and ali the blood relative of mohammet…
    Wasn't Ali both Muhammad's cousin and son-in-law because he married Muhammad's daughter Fatima?

    Incest was also one of Muhammad's family's contributions to what good Muslims should be doing....

    Directly connected to the topic of the OP - the children of Ali, Hassan and Hassain, were subjected to Michael Jackson-style sexual molestation by none other than Muhammad himself.

    Originally posted by Elishar View Post
    Which should moslems follow ? ali ,or abu bakra ?
    They are still trying to answer that question in the Syrian Civil War - they still can't answer that question even after almost 1400 years

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  • jordan_rudess
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    Originally posted by DrSchadenfreude View Post

    Just good projection from right wing catholicophile silly boy When you defend pedophile catholic church mafia ring and blame victims of catholicophile abuse and cover ups you support it

    You should give up pretend lawyer school where you will fail anyway and join the catholicophile abuse ring priesthood, there at least they would welcome you for certain as you have the perfect suspicious credentials
    No no troll, actualy you DO support pedophiles. If you claim this is sexual orientation, the next step is to demand equal rights and stop discriminate pedos against another sexual orientation that is heterosexuality

    Stop being hypocrite and admit you like and support pedophiles and their demands

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  • DrSchadenfreude
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    It's only good for the leftist idiots like yourself, if you support pedophilia you shouldn't be whining about it
    Just good projection from right wing catholicophile silly boy When you defend pedophile catholic church mafia ring and blame victims of catholicophile abuse and cover ups you support it

    You should give up pretend lawyer school where you will fail anyway and join the catholicophile abuse ring priesthood, there at least they would welcome you for certain as you have the perfect suspicious credentials

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  • jordan_rudess
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    Originally posted by DrSchadenfreude View Post

    Good, now you can explain the fact all your pervert catholicophile priests are pedophiles from birth sulking pole
    It's only good for the leftist idiots like yourself, if you support pedophilia you shouldn't be whining about it

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  • DrSchadenfreude
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    Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

    While you have stated pedo = sexual orientation and no one here has forgotten that fact
    Good, now you can explain the fact all your pervert catholicophile priests are pedophiles from birth sulking pole

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by Lewini View Post
    God forbid, a hundred thousand times! Such vile doubts cannot be directed at that lofty one! Yes, he was such that from the age of fifteen to forty when the blood is fiery and exuberant and the passions of the soul enflamed, he sufficed and was content with a single older woman like Khadija the Great (May God be pleased with her) with complete chastity and purity-as is agreed by friend and foe alike. His then having numerous wives after the age of forty, that is, when bodily heat subsides and the passions are quietened, is evidence proving decisively and self-evidently to those who are even a little fair-minded that such marriages were not to satisfy the carnal appetites, but were for other important reasons and instances of wisdom. One of those instances of wisdom is this: like his words, the actions, states, conduct, and deeds of God's Messenger (PBUH) are the sources of religion and the Shari'a, and the authority for its injunctions. While the Companions transmitted the outward, public things, the transmitters and narrators of the private matters of religion and injunctions of the Shari'a which were manifested from his private conduct in the personal sphere, were his wives; they performed this function. Perhaps half of the personal matters of religion and the injunctions concerning them come from them. That is to say, numerous wives of differing temperament were required to perform this necessary duty.
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    Mohammet was a penniless orphan..He subsisted by tending sheep,a girls job...
    He could not afford a wife,,what self respecting father would give him a young virgin daughter ?
    Khadija was a wealthy widow who needed a man to live in Her house for protection against all the fortune seekers..She chose mohammet because he had nothing and could not take from her...
    She bore him daughters and died...Mohammet got his young virgin bride in the form of Aisha and from there it was all downhill..He obtained his other wives under dubious circumstances except for Maria the Coptic Christian slave girl she gave him a SON ,sickly weak and destined for an early death....Of ALL his wives except Khadija no children yet moslems speak of his great sexual powers..One of his daughters had a son Ali and at the death of mohammet his ISLAM was split forever between abu bakra the father of Aisha and ali the blood relative of mohammet…
    Which should moslems follow ? ali ,or abu bakra ?

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  • Elishar
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    Originally posted by Lewini View Post
    The problem of Saeed and Suna:



    For example, a man who secretly commits a shameful sin will fear the disgrace that results if others become aware of it. Thus the existence of angels and spirit beings will be hard for him to endure, and he will long to deny it, even on the strength of the slightest indication.
    Similarly, one who commits a major sin deserving of the torment of Hell, will desire the non-existence of Hell wholeheartedly, and whenever he hears of the threat of Hell-fire, he will dare to deny it on the strength of a slight indication and doubt, unless he takes up in protection the shield of repentance and seeking forgiveness.
    Similarly, one who does not perform the obligatory prayer and fulfil his duty of worship will be affected by distress, just as he would be in case of the neglect of a minor duty toward some petty ruler. Thus, his laziness in fulfulling his obligation, despite the repeated commands of the Sovereign of Pre-Eternity, will distress him greatly, and on account of that distress will desire and say to himself: "Would that there were no such duty of worship!" In turn, there will arise from this desire a desire to deny God, and bear enmity toward Him. If some doubt concerning the existence of the Divine Being comes to his heart, he will be inclined to embrace it like a conclusive proof. A wide gate to destruction will be opened in front of him. The wretch does not know that although he is delivered by denial from the slight trouble of duty of worship, he has made himself, by that same denial, the target for milions of troubles that are far more awesome. Fleeing from the bite of a gnat, he welcomes the bite of the snake.
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    leWINI !! Another diatribe based on presuppositions,,,Oy...'
    One who commits deserving hell > only works if he believes in hell,,otherwise ,, more empty words...
    One who commits murder,, there is a witness,,he will desire the non existence of that witness,he doen't have to Believe in that witness,he saw him...
    Your whole schpiel presupposes that someone believes in the existence of allah,,it is all you know...
    mohammet the moslem says you can eat camel,what is the difference between a camel and a cow..?

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  • Keine-namen
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    Originally posted by Lewini View Post
    The problem of Saeed and Suna:



    For example, a man who secretly commits a shameful sin will fear the disgrace that results if others become aware of it. Thus the existence of angels and spirit beings will be hard for him to endure, and he will long to deny it, even on the strength of the slightest indication.
    Similarly, one who commits a major sin deserving of the torment of Hell, will desire the non-existence of Hell wholeheartedly, and whenever he hears of the threat of Hell-fire, he will dare to deny it on the strength of a slight indication and doubt, unless he takes up in protection the shield of repentance and seeking forgiveness.
    Similarly, one who does not perform the obligatory prayer and fulfil his duty of worship will be affected by distress, just as he would be in case of the neglect of a minor duty toward some petty ruler. Thus, his laziness in fulfulling his obligation, despite the repeated commands of the Sovereign of Pre-Eternity, will distress him greatly, and on account of that distress will desire and say to himself: "Would that there were no such duty of worship!" In turn, there will arise from this desire a desire to deny God, and bear enmity toward Him. If some doubt concerning the existence of the Divine Being comes to his heart, he will be inclined to embrace it like a conclusive proof. A wide gate to destruction will be opened in front of him. The wretch does not know that although he is delivered by denial from the slight trouble of duty of worship, he has made himself, by that same denial, the target for milions of troubles that are far more awesome. Fleeing from the bite of a gnat, he welcomes the bite of the snake.
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    I'm not going to say a lot, the only thing that i'd like to say is that Suna and I have no problem, we are just speaking more sense, with no chains that changed our minds, like an religious ideology that people drink since their birth with no free will or choice ( many things have been chosen for you before your birth )...something is just a heritage has been inherited by ancestors and considered it the only absolute truth... the new generations do the same thing...keep rolling inside this circle...we are just clean and freed of those illogical myths and beliefs which makes people to become something else " something deformed ".

    Lewini don't turn this conversation to an ad hominem that full of nonsense.
    your example doesn't make any sense to me because you're speaking out of your personal reality and your own thoughts, It isn't necessary to include all people over the world inside of your own box...and i think that you're talking begining of your reality and your point of view to this life that has been built on account of your beliefs and your own environment ect...
    Lewini, you're maybe a moderate believer, such believers that i call them " cute muslims " because they practice and believe only in the cutest face of Islam, but they really don't know about the other face which the real Sunni knows it...because the real Sunni is considered " time bomb " for me...at anytime he could explode...and I have met many when i was religious too...some of them hate me now, and some want to do harm to me...
    Last edited by Keine-namen; 03-02-2019, 04:49 PM.

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