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    I'd like to ask here to share experiences how is it to be gay, lesbian, trans and etc in Islamic country or being part of Muslim community. Share your personal stories if you feel okay to do so. I'm especially curious to hear from those who are not of commong gender identifications or sexual orientations and yet are Muslim, because that is one of the least shared type of story I've heard.

    Thank you to all those who will answer, I know it's not an easy subject.

    Edit: If you don't feel like discussing such things in open forum, I'd be glad to hear your thoughts in a private message, thank you sincerely yet again.
    Last edited by CasualMeaning; 03-16-2019, 01:10 PM.

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    https://www.islamreligion.com/articl...of-lot-part-1/

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    • #3
      A meme says more than thousand words

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      • #4
        "Homosexuality is an absolute taboo subject among German Muslims, and when cases of homosexuality come to light - by accident or because parents receive relevant information - violence plays a major role in many cases."
        https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/moscheereport-103.html

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        • #5
          I think it exists but it's all hidden under the cloth, much like their women

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          • #6
            Muslim LGBT? That sounds like a death sentence.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by RogerCarmel View Post
              Muslim LGBT? That sounds like a death sentence.

              Only if it goes public. I have a nagging feeling a lot of the richer arab dudes like to partake of the the prohibited pork sausage

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              • #8
                I visited Adana for few weeks with polish guys without girls, we slept in a hotel outside the city. There were just a restaurant with drunk and angry locals and a kebab bar with a gay owner. Once the gay owner had few beer too much he performed belly dance in front of us. I as homo magnet, I aroused his highest attention, so I took a flower from the table and putt it with a smirk behind his bra. (Yeah, he wore a female belly dancer outfit) XD ...I can remember everybody in the bar laughed like crazy, with the comments like "now... you have a new friend"
                Of course later a female belly dance in a five star hotel was much more tempting for my hetero soul, but not such funny. Because the tie and suit society there was just boring and static.

                Personally I think, those locals from the restaurant would chimp out after two Raki too much to such gay bally dance performance.
                Even if all in our male group were dangerous looking mofos (rowing club members) we disappeared always very fast out of the restaurant after eating the dinner, because this place smelled literally for trouble.

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                • #9
                  The huge irony is that while Islam persecutes people who are homosexual in all sorts of ways, Muhammad himself was the ultimate closet gay:



                  Much of Islamic society follow that sunnah of Muhammad - outwardly persecuting gays yet a huge proportion themselves closet gays - such as we see in Saudi Arabia:



                  (there are also interesting statistics about child sex abuse - also following Muhammad's sunnah very closely)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CasualMeaning View Post
                    I'd like to ask here to share experiences how is it to be gay, lesbian, trans and etc in Islamic country or being part of Muslim community. Share your personal stories if you feel okay to do so. I'm especially curious to hear from those who are not of commong gender identifications or sexual orientations and yet are Muslim, because that is one of the least shared type of story I've heard.

                    Thank you to all those who will answer, I know it's not an easy subject.
                    Brother !

                    Know yourself first!

                    Ask yourself that who you are!

                    I will make your thinking easy . If you don't know yourself you will be a fool like AussieinShit and you will deserve Hell. Know that paradise is not cheap nor the Hell in Unnecessary...

                    The fact that those who come to this world continuously depart, and the young grow old, and man perpetually revolves amid death and separation testifies that he did not come to this world to enjoy himself and receive pleasure.
                    Moreover, while man is the most perfect, the most elevated, of living beings and the best endowed in regard to members and faculties, through thinking of past pleasures and future pains, he passes only a grievous, troublesome life, lower than the animals. This means that man did not come to this world in order to live in fine manner and pass his life in ease and pleasure. Rather, possessing vast capital, he came here to work and do trade for an eternal, everlasting life.
                    The capital given to man is his lifetime. Had there been no illness, good health and well-being would have caused heedlessness, for they show the world to be pleasant and make the Hereafter forgotten. They do not want death and the grave to be thought of; they cause the capital of life to be wasted on trifles. Whereas illness suddenly opens the eyes, it says to the body: "You are not immortal. You have not been left to your own devices. You have a duty. Give up your pride, think of the One Who created you. Know that you will enter the grave, so prepare yourself for it!"
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Lewini View Post

                      Brother !

                      Know yourself first!

                      Ask yourself that who you are!

                      I will make your thinking easy . If you don't know yourself you will be a fool like AussieinShit and you will deserve Hell. Know that paradise is not cheap nor the Hell in Unnecessary...

                      The fact that those who come to this world continuously depart, and the young grow old, and man perpetually revolves amid death and separation testifies that he did not come to this world to enjoy himself and receive pleasure.
                      Moreover, while man is the most perfect, the most elevated, of living beings and the best endowed in regard to members and faculties, through thinking of past pleasures and future pains, he passes only a grievous, troublesome life, lower than the animals. This means that man did not come to this world in order to live in fine manner and pass his life in ease and pleasure. Rather, possessing vast capital, he came here to work and do trade for an eternal, everlasting life.
                      The capital given to man is his lifetime. Had there been no illness, good health and well-being would have caused heedlessness, for they show the world to be pleasant and make the Hereafter forgotten. They do not want death and the grave to be thought of; they cause the capital of life to be wasted on trifles. Whereas illness suddenly opens the eyes, it says to the body: "You are not immortal. You have not been left to your own devices. You have a duty. Give up your pride, think of the One Who created you. Know that you will enter the grave, so prepare yourself for it!"
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                      Strap on the belt and go out with a bang for allah...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Lewini View Post
                        The fact that those who come to this world continuously depart, and the young grow old, and man perpetually revolves amid death and separation testifies that he did not come to this world to enjoy himself and receive pleasure.
                        Moreover, while man is the most perfect, the most elevated, of living beings and the best endowed in regard to members and faculties, through thinking of past pleasures and future pains, he passes only a grievous, troublesome life, lower than the animals. This means that man did not come to this world in order to live in fine manner and pass his life in ease and pleasure.
                        I would say this teaching is one of the reasons why Muslim societies are as bad as they are.

                        Muslims think it is normal and Gods will that life in Islamic societies is miserable.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Elishar View Post

                          Strap on the belt and go out with a bang for allah...
                          Allah loves people . So He created the universe with love. He sent his prophets for people not for himself. Think you are in a ship. A man starts to make a hole on a ship. Could you say that : no worry I don't care ? Think ten people are in a room. A man comes and turn of the light. Could it be darkness just for Him? Adultery, pornography, homosexuality, killing innocent people, using drugs, selling drugs, selling terrible goods foods, selling guns to theorist groups, being a theorist, killing people with the lie of bringing democracy like China does nowadays or deceiving people like having nuclear weapons like America did and creating Isis for so called promised lands ... All are haram the same like killing innocent people for the lie of for the sake of Allah. All of them will be in Hell. Islam don't say that kill people because of being non Muslim.

                          Ask killing people like killing insects to Natanyahu to Bush to Sisi to Esad to Trump to Milosevic to.....not to me . Some extremit Muslims do terrible things because they don't know their religion but Zionist killes people because they know their so called holy book.

                          Laden will be in Hell with Bush... Natanyahu will be in Hell with Isis members...

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                          • #14
                            And this is my last post. It will be like a seed . It could be possible to be a tree with a THINKING.

                            Think !

                            Is it at all possible that God Almighty, He Who is worshipped by right, should create man within creation as the most significant of all of His servants with respect to His absolute dominicality and with respect to His universal dominicality in all of His realms; that He should make him the most thoughtful recipient of His glorious address, the most comprehensive mirror to the manifestation of His Names; that He should create him as the most beautiful miracle of His power in the fairest of forms, in order to receive the manifestation of the Greatest Name, as well as that quality of the Greatest Name inherent in the other Names, in order for him to assess and perceive the contents of His treasuries of mercy; that He should make him an investigator of secrets equipped more than any other creature with balances and instruments; and He should make him the most needy of all creatures with respect to His infinite gifts, the one suffering most from annihilation and the one most desirous of immortality; that He should make him the most delicate, the poorest and neediest of animals, most wretched and subject to pain in his worldly life but most sublime in disposition, in the highest of forms and characters - is it possible that God Almighty should do all this with man and not send him to the Eternal Realm for which he is suited and fitted and for which he is longing? Is it possible that He should thus negate the whole essence of humanity, act in a manner totally contrary to His own veracity, and perform an act of injustice that the eye of truth must deem ugly?
                            Again, is it at all possible that He Who rules justly, Whose mercy is absolute, should bestow on man such a disposition that he took up the Supreme Trust, from which the heavens and mountains both shrank, in order to measure and know, with his slight and petty measures and crafts, the all encompassing attributes, the universal workings, and the infinite manifestations of the Creator; that He should create him as the most delicate, vulnerable, weak and powerless of beings, while yet entrusting him with the regulation of all the vegetal and animal life upon earth, and causing him to intervene in their modes of worship and glorification of God; that He should cause him to be a representation in miniature of His cosmic processes; that He should cause him to proclaim His glorious dominicality to all beings, in word and deed; that He should prefer him to the angels and give him the rank of vicegerent - is it at all possible that God should bestow all of this on man and not give him eternal bliss, the purpose, result and fruit of all of these duties?
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                            Lewini deletes his account. 10 . 9. 8. 7....0 Bye

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lewini View Post
                              Laden will be in Hell with Bush... Natanyahu will be in Hell with Isis members...
                              you already live in your own hell even before you die and you try to create hell for all humankind.

                              Originally posted by Lewini View Post
                              nuclear weapons like America did and creating Isis for so called promised lands
                              Isis creates itself out of the Islamic teachings.
                              Isis and similar violent Islamic groups are created in Mosques.

                              Keep lying to yourself if you want your life being miserable.
                              THINK!

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