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  • #31
    Originally posted by Suna123 View Post

    I would say families are often responsible that homosexuals don't like how they are in the first place.
    Not always the case, for example you may be a relligious person and Catholicism considers homosexual act as sinful. Motivation like any other.
    Or you may be conservatist and just don't like gays, traditionalist people can potentially consider their homosexuality as personal tragedy of some sort.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

      I don't know what they are talking about it in US, I'm reporting what just happens right now in here, as we speak. Yup suicide rate is also brought by the lefties here, and the other side says it's bullshit and "creative statistics".
      So I guess they are importing their ideology from Murica, like the leftists do in France and which is often not fitting Europeans countries (but maybe therapies in Poland are very similar to the ones in US? even if I doubt).
      Suicide rate is a thing with such therapies in Murica it seems. That being said, Murica is a specific area and statistics from there couldn't be applied to a country like France for sure, firstly because such therapies porobably exist but would be mainly provided by psychologists and, if provided by religious institutions, thenit would be a catholic one and in a different way than in Murica (or even a mosquee but this would be, once again, different from Murica).
      What I mean here is that those statistic might be very true but they are statistics of a specific society and could hardly be applied to another one, especially a European country which is fundamentally different from aMurican society. It could be true that the suicide rate is higher inPoland, but if they use Murican statistics, then it's irrelevant.

      Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post
      I think it does. It exists in nature for some reason, if that was entirely product of culture then you wouldn't have homosexual behavior in animals. But now lefties cannot be saying "you're being born with it", you don't know that.
      If a trait is spreading over time, then it probably have a specific function from an evolutionnary perspective. Yet, it has few to do with preventing a system from crashing or anything, it might just give an advantage to species where homosexuality exist and,, in case of human, where homosexuality is a "definitive" trait (not just an occasionnal homosexuality like for bonobos, dogs, cows...).


      Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post
      And by the way, therapies should not be for people who are forced by the family. It should be available only to those who want to change their condition because they don't like it. Not because family is forcing you, yes there are such people
      We agree on that, unfortunately I think that such therapies like that are more often imposed either directly or indirectly (pressure of your social circle for example) than a self-made choice

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Sancta_Lux View Post
        So I guess they are importing their ideology from Murica, like the leftists do in France and which is often not fitting Europeans countries (but maybe therapies in Poland are very similar to the ones in US? even if I doubt).
        Suicide rate is a thing with such therapies in Murica it seems. That being said, Murica is a specific area and statistics from there couldn't be applied to a country like France for sure, firstly because such therapies porobably exist but would be mainly provided by psychologists and, if provided by religious institutions, thenit would be a catholic one and in a different way than in Murica (or even a mosquee but this would be, once again, different from Murica).
        What I mean here is that those statistic might be very true but they are statistics of a specific society and could hardly be applied to another one, especially a European country which is fundamentally different from aMurican society. It could be true that the suicide rate is higher inPoland, but if they use Murican statistics, then it's irrelevant.
        I guess they do, it's the same as in case of "hate speech". Polish "mowa nienawiści" is just a calque of english term and it's semantically doesn't have any sense, yet everybody's suddenly talking about "mowa nienawiści", even lawyers (and there is no crime such as "hate speech" in this country it's just absurd copy term that doesn't mean anything), these days murican patterns are copy pasted into other cultures just like that and its so damn annoying.

        The other thing is that Polish leftists probably don't have a suicide rate of Polish homosexuals because such stats just don't exist

        Originally posted by Sancta_Lux View Post
        If a trait is spreading over time, then it probably have a specific function from an evolutionnary perspective. Yet, it has few to do with preventing a system from crashing or anything, it might just give an advantage to species where homosexuality exist and,, in case of human, where homosexuality is a "definitive" trait (not just an occasionnal homosexuality like for bonobos, dogs, cows...).
        It may be occasional too, take prisons for example

        Originally posted by Sancta_Lux View Post
        We agree on that, unfortunately I think that such therapies like that are more often imposed either directly or indirectly (pressure of your social circle for example) than a self-made choice
        I am against imposing both therapies as well as imposing therapy ban. First there will always be people who don't want to be homosexual no matter how fluffy atmosphere leftists create around the issue of being gay/ lesbian. And two if the suicide rate really is an issue then maybe they should start caring about transsexual people. The suicide rate among transsexuals is also something like 400% of a suicide rate among normal people. Is it really because society is being rude to them? Or maybe because they are terribly sick and lost people who need help?



        This dude cut off his dick, changed his skin color and demands to be identified as "no gender". He needs professional help and yet to offer him such is "fascism"
        Last edited by jordan_rudess; 09-01-2019, 12:35 PM.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jordan_rudess View Post

          Is it really because society is being rude to them? Or maybe because they are terribly sick and lost people who need help?

          This dude cut off his dick, changed his skin color and demands to be identified as "no gender". He needs professional help and yet to offer him such is "fascism"
          although i do not deny if they are victim of society,
          i also see if those peoples fail to act ignorant and carefree, they care about peoples opinion too much.
          they seek acceptation or affirmation from other peoples regarding their gender, skin colour, orientation.


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          • #35
            Homosexuality is a psychological disorder. Homosexuality is high in societies that don't allow mixing between boys and girls like Saudi Arabia where there are separated gender schools so imagine the psychological situation of a boy who never gets a connection with a girl from primary school until graduation from university, the highest rates of views in gay porn sites are from Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.

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            • #36
              i know several gay men that are named Gene

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